Re: Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?

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...> It's only a newspaper article, but I found these efforts being made
to


save kids contracting HIV from their mothers, in conditions we in the
west probably can't imagine, rather moving:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/christmasappeal2005/story/0,16796,1664125,00.html


Sorta makes Alive and Well look a bit irrelevant and trivial.

Cathy


I saw something similar.  The alumnus publication of where I graduated
from
college (the type that usually have a "Give money to continue research"
message) had a story of its medical school's research in keeping
children of
HIV+ women uninfected.  It included a story of one woman who had been
homeless and drug addicted, but now was on the mend with custody of her
child (who was protected by the meds).

Alive and Well is not trivial in as much as Maggiore has claimed to
convince
50 mothers to not protect their children.


http://groups.msn.com/AliveandWellsupportersgroup/yourwebpage.msnw

Who We Are

Alive & Well AIDS Alternatives is a 501 (c) (3) non-profit support,
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Founder/director Christine Maggiore tested HIV positive in 1992 and was
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A series of conflicting HIV test results in 1993 inspired questions about
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Since testing positive in 1992, Christine has lived without illness or
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both born with no medical interventions.

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We invite you to use the articles, information, references, and links at
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thoughts, ideas and suggestions-your input is invaluable to our progress.



Yes, that explains their anti-science views, and why they would like to
delude themselves that little Eliza did not have AIDS.


Do come back. Rich, AFTER, YOU have been given five to seven years to live.

Oh, I forgot, YOU do NOT have the capability of putting yourself into
another's place.

ALL you do here, is repeat the words of *organized* and *conventional*
medicne
Plus REPEAT the PROVEN LYING websites, then LIE again and say there are no
lies.

Of course we already know, you don't give a damn if Peter lies to me, this
newsgroup, his mother, or the pope.

It is also proven, YOU have have also lied for Mark Probert.

this thread is not about me. 


Yes, it is, it just so happens, YOU are among the many lies that Rich tells.

It will be about you very soon.


And what else is new? 

It will be about you in ways you have yet to experience.


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