Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Maintain Their Monopolies
- From: clintonz@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: 4 Aug 2005 14:40:53 -0700
Happy Dog wrote:
> <clintonz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>
> >
> > I never said that. Now you are cutting up my post to make it
> > look I said what I didn't.
>
> I said "They do not recommend that amalgam fillings be eliminated."
>
> You said, in direct response: "False".
"You said they haven't changed their minds. They don't agree
with my assessment." My statement was about their stance
on hg release so already 3 posts ago you gave an answer
implying I meant something I did not. I was doing a favor by
responding without even pointing that out, which you used to
cut up my next post and distort further. It is also clear what
I meant on the last post. i was responding to your statement
that they "haven't changed their minds" and my statement were
addressing the issue of the ADA's stance on amalgam stability.
At any rate we could squabble like this all day. You have refused
to even comment on two major papers clearly addressing these issues. i
really have to question your motives because you seem
intent on cutting up my post, ignoring key points and then responding
in a way which implies I am saying what I am not.
And Peter B has a point. you are spending a tremendous amount of
energy on this issue iwthout any interest in the science. In my
experience most people are either personally affected by amalgam
and "obsessed" with the issue, or percieve that it does not
affect them and will barely talk about it.
>
>
> > were was the scientific community when they said amalgam was
> > stable, when they said the sun revolved around the earth.
>
> They were examing and reexamining the evidence. That's how it's done.
they put Galelio in jail when they could have seen the sun with
a telescope. this reexaminiation of the evidence took 100 years!
How long does it take to look through a telescope! How long will
the ADA take to admit that Hg is leaching from amalgam in large
amounts when it is easily measurable? Another 200 years?
> >
> > Your depiction of my beliefs being influenced by what any
> > group thinks are wrong. I think alone and apply the process
> > of elimination. That's why I'm alive, although obviously we all
> > are influenced by basic assumptions. If I had been aware of
> > the amalgam controversy I would have realized my health problems
> > may be related to my fillings long ago and saved years.
>
> Spoken like a true believer. You have convinced yourself that your
> self-diagnosis is infallible.
>
So if i say I believe what a group says i am "a deluded follower". If
I say all my decisions are independent I am a "deluded self diagnoser"
who believes they are infallible. I think it is obvious to anyone
reading this thread why it will be impossible having
a meaningful discussion with you, since no MATTER what i say
or do you will attack it. however don't worry you've
earned your pharmablogger paycheck today.
> >> Doesn't make dentists harm their loved ones. Are they all stupid? Evil?
> >> >
> > Look at the history of lead, DDT, etc. Who knows what causes
> > these miscalculations.
>
> Except in this case, you believe that the evidence is almost >wholly ignored.
It wasn't before? Now you are really spinning your wheels.
> Or that the whole dental community is blind or stupid.
Collectively there is a "clinker in the thinker".
>
> >> >> Is there any claim of alternative medicine you
> >> >> think is crap?
> >> >
> >> > Sure, that mega doses of vitamens are benefical. Not that
> >> > it can't be in some cases.
> >>
> >> Your reasoning behind this conclusion please.
> >
> > People seem to be healthy even when they eat less
> > and get less than normal doses of vitamens. People just don't
> > seem to need a lot of vitamens or food for good health .
>
> People seem to be healthy who have amalgam fillings.
>
right my conclusion could be wrong. mega-doses may indeed
make people healthier. But this claim is based upon a specualtive
hypothesis that more vitamens will somehow help when there may be no
mechanism for this. Amalgam is well known to corrode toxic
metal so a hypothesis that it DOESN'T cause harm is speculative.
at any rate taking vitamens is only meant to boost peoples health
who are already healthy while toxic metals can destroy health and
therefore deserve study first.
.
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