Re: Question for Clinton Z.
- From: clintonz@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: 4 Aug 2005 10:50:45 -0700
Mark Thorson wrote:
> clintonz@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Mark Thorson wrote:
> > > Have you had a mercury patch test,
> > > to check for an allergy to mercury?
> >
> > No. I have tried to stay away from allergy testing. I think that it may
> > give false positives or negatives, plus someone who is hg toxic could
> > also later develop an allergy. In fact even dentists
> > have claimed to develop allergy to hg vapor after suffering toxicity.
>
> The reason I asked is that mercury allergy is a recognized
> condition for which a reliable test (the patch test) exists.
> You have developed complex theories about your own
> condition, which are not necessary nor likely if a simpler
> explanation is available.
true Hg toxicity causes a lot of symptoms which cannot be
explained by allergy. For example, my chess playing ability
declined dramatically. there apparently is still some nervous
system damage becaue its harder to do certain visulization tasks.
It goes far beyond simple allergy.
>
> It's like if I see moving lights in the sky -- "airplane" is
> a much better and more likely explanation than "visitors
> from another planet".
>
> If you have a positive mercury patch test, the whole
> question is answered immediately. You have mercury
> allergy and never should have had mercury amalgam
> dental fillings in the first place.
I'd have to determine that these tests are reliable, and as I
said toxiciy could cause allergy anyway.
>
> If you resist being tested, that raises the question of
> whether you are avoiding getting a clear-cut diagnosis.
There where a number of abnormal findings before amalgam
removal such as high blood pressure changes in wbc, elevated
creatine, elevated A/G ratio. Low thyroid, frequent urination.
All which normalized after amalgam removal. Not to mention the jaw near
the filling had become soft. I could also try challenge testing now
that my amalgams are removed but that could be dangerous.
>
> > Actually at the time right before amalgam removal
> > I had high copper blood serum so I am sure that it
> > was coming off the amalgam.
>
> Was the high copper determined using a conventional
> assay?
It was done by a conventional blood test ordered by a conventional
MD.
Was it confirmed using another method?
They checked it twice according to the report. I don't know if they
used another method or not.
> How did you rule out other sources of copper?
> I'm wondering how you can be "sure".
Obviously you can never be sure, but let me also tell you that
I had to press the (new) dentist to remove the filling because it
seemed okay on x-ray. then what do you know a tremendous amount
of decay underneath and apparently the filling was in bad shape. then
after this I looked for my original
records when i was back home and they were gone..an awful lot
of coincedences. Also if you are being affected by Hg you know
it. I wasn't concerned about proving what the problem was but more
with concerned with trying to get better. I was really out of it when i
had the amalgam removed and one big mistake I did make was not saving
the filling.
>
> As I posted a few minutes ago, the MELISA test does
> not seem to be useful. It's odd that the melisa.org
> bibliographic pages include earlier studies from the
> same authors I quoted, but not the later studies from
> the same authors reversing their position on MELISA.
I haven't researched it at all so I can't say if it is
accurate or not.
.
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