Re: East Meets West - Qigong Crane Frolic plus Pistol

Steve Freides wrote:
"Jason Earl" <jearl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:87zljkeo4i.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Steve Freides" <steve@xxxxxxxx> writes:

"Jason Earl" <jearl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote

For the record I don't even know how you pronounce Qigong. Maybe
that's
why I kept losing my balance.
It's pronounced, to the best of my knowledge, "shee gong." It used to
be spelled "chi gong" or "chi kong" or similar in English.
Who says MFW isn't educational.

There ya go! :)

There is a lot of mumbo-jumbo attached to it, but for me there is
no real mystery. I did that stuff, I could get hight on it, I
could feel bunch of weird stuff, have hallucinations and what not,
and while it was a cool thing to experience, I don't think there is
much to it.
Andrzej, you oversimplify. It takes years to master a form in
qigong (or, harder, tai chi).
So much to learn, so little time.
An updated version from earlier today (ah, the things we do to avoid
spending time talking to our visiting in-laws) - this one uses a 16 kg
kettlebell. I've never done the pistol+qigong thing with a weight, so
I tried 8 kg, 12 kg, and 16 kg, all of which seemed pretty easy (read:
I was exhaling at the bottom of the pistol, not something I'd do with
a heavy weight). Here you go:
I'm actually excited about talking to my in-laws. Unfortunately,
they've left the building for the moment and have left me with my wife.
Generally speaking I like spending time with my wife, but right now she
is busy planning her strategy for the Black Friday sales. She's really
excited.

I'll tell you the story of me and my wife and our rather different backgrounds sometime.

Getting up at 3:00 AM in the morning to fight over stuff at Wal-Mart
should be against the Geneva conventions. As far as I am concerned that
would be a fate worse than death.

Agreed - I don't think anyone here will be doing that tomorrow at all, let alone get up early for it. The grocery store is about as close to shopping as we'll likely get - and we dealt with one immediate need this evening by taking a trip to the 24-hour Walgreens (drug store that sells lots of other stuff). We could have gone tomorrow, but my son got his driving permit yesterday and really wanted to take a trip in the car so off we went.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3xWiMJdCrY
First of all, I would like to congratulate you on your "fort."
Seriously, that looks like a very cool room. That's some collection of
kettlebells.

Literally you are not seeing even half of them. The collection these days is excessive for me but I need enough bells in smaller sizes when I teach workshops. I think I have a pair of 4 kg, then maybe 4 each in 8, 12, and 16 kg, plus a pair or maybe 3 each in 20 and 24 kg, plus pairs in 28, 32, 36, and 40 kg, and a single 48 kg. And that doesn't count the full set of competition bells, pairs in 12, 16, 24, and 32 that I got as part of the AKC certification.

When we built that addition onto the house, my wife suggested that we not have a basement, just a concrete slab with the addition on top of it; I, OTOH, suggested that we have a patio upstairs (a concrete slab) but with a 9-foot-ceilinged basement underneath, so we ended up with both. It's 9 feet to the bottom of the rafters, and it's just a great workout space. I think it's 30 feet x 12 feet or thereabouts.

I need to practice weighted pistols. Even unweighted I tend to rely on
"bouncing" out of the hole. However, I *have* included one-legged
kettlebell deadlifts into my last few kettlebell workouts, and the skill
is coming back to me. It had been a while. I'm not sure that I like
the movement enough to build a whole workout around it, but they work
quite well as part of a larger complex of movements. I clearly need the
practice balancing.

There is a subtle difference between balancing and rooting - you really want to try to stay more solid on one leg through using more strength, not through better balance, if that makes any sense. It's an important difference if you want to maximize the carryover these movements have to things like powerlifting. And it's also important to maintain good DL mechanics - notice how my shin stays vertical or nearly so throughout. One's knee must move forward when the hips drop below parallel but the idea, especially when the hip isn't that low, is to keep the knee right over the ankle.

Over this side of the pond "rooting" has a different meaning. Mind you, balance and the use of one's hips and knees is important in rooting and well as vertical and horizontal. But that paragraph sure made me laugh based on our use of the term rooting.


Last but not least, the groove for a weighted pistol is a different thing than an unweighted one, at least for me. I find that if I practice weighted pistols too much I lose my bodyweight-only pistol groove, and my choice is to stick with mostly bodyweight-only in training. I did the weighted ones today only because I'd done a lot of bodyweight-only ones in the last few days and wanted something different.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

Jason



Bob
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