Re: Building shoulders

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008, Steve Freides wrote:

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Steve Freides wrote:

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Steve Freides wrote:

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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Stromata wrote:

So there are 3 basic movements:

Press
Lateral raises
Front raises

And upright rows.

And a lot of other things, too.

But i don't think there are as many shoulder exercises as you think,
because a lot of them are essentially the same exercise.

How about pushups (pressups for UK brethren)?

Aha! Good point. And similar things such as the bench press, and in particular the inclined bench press.

I think the discussion of bench press versus pushup is an interesting one. I've been doing one-armed pushups lately, and it sure feels like a shoulder exercise to me!

Interesting. Never tried them myself; not convinced i'd be able to! I would try it right now, but it's leg day.

One could certainly include the bench press as well (and the discussion of bench press versus pushup is an interesting one in terms of what gets worked and how).

I'm in the "they're the same" camp myself.

And isn't a one-handed push=up similar to a close-grip bench press, since you have your hand towards the centreline of your body? That would make it more of a tricep exercise, though, not a shoulder thing, which is what you've observed. Interesting.

tom

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