Re: Whey Protein
- From: Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:05:08 -0800 (PST)
On Jan 4, 2:15 pm, Karl Groves <k...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, by "stick around", I mean dedicate portions of my day to check
the group messages. Sure, it is easy to just ignore kookery,
flamewars, and trolls, but the bottom line is, finding worthwhile
information and on-topic conversation is probably not worth the time
and effort.
Yes, it's all about expectations. I use this newsgroup the way I
sometimes buy a bodybuilding magazine: I don't really expect much, but
it's entertaining and helps with morale.
That's true. Most of usenet these days is filled with spam and
idiots. The lack of moderation really allows the inmates to overtake
the asylum. I remember usenet from about 10-12 years ago, before
Google Groups and before the unwashed masses even knew usenet
existed.
Hehe! I first logged on in '95 or '96 myself. The thing with the
information superhighway is that you will always get new drivers on
the roads!
While I can see where you're coming from, I can't agree. In a way,
its like blaming a chick for her own rape because she wore a short
skirt and a tight shirt.
Which I do, BTW. I still think the rapist should be prosecuted, but
hey, you want to dangle money in front of poor people, don't be
surprised you get mugged.
Trolls and kooks are bad, regardless of how
the "experts" responded to them.
But the very act of responding to them exasperates the experts. Not
very clever of them to then complain about trolls and kooks when
feeding the trolls and kooks.
Robert Schuh screaming at trolls
might have exacerbated the problem,
Rob Schuh is in a category all by himself. He's not funny or
anything, but he still insists on logging in just to scream at
someone. "Post your real name"??? What the heck is that all about??
Does he really want to look up someone for a visit, or does he just
have a big banana in his pocket??
but I distinctly recall tons of
great information coming from him when I first started reading MFW.
Though I've checked in through the years, I've only really started
posting within the last three or four, and I seem to recall that most
of what he had to offer was steroids advice.
Again, I disagree. IMO, newbies absolutely need a resource they can
turn to in order to avoid the massive amount of misinformation being
thrown at people.
Come on, this is usenet, and weight-lifting is the equivalent of
getting advice on how to pick-up girls or how to pick winning stocks!
These days the internet is filled with so much crap
and everyone has a product to sell. Resources like MFW can be
invaluable when it comes to filtering through all the bad advice and
sales pitches.
It's the ol' problem of "who polices the police"...I think you place
too much trust in "experts" over a matter that's essentially still a
very big mystery.
I can't speak for everyone, and I'm far from perfect, but my personal
feeling is that I want to help newbies, but I don't want to retype the
same message over and over. This is the very reason why archives and
FAQs exist!
Ah, then MFW isn't for newbies -- google is, but MFW is for experts
and advanced lifters.
Sure, yelling at people isn't an appropriate response,
It is if you look at all this as entertainment!
but expecting people to do their own research is absolutely within
reason, IMO.
You know, I get frustrated when these January Tourists crowd up the
gym doing puny bench presses with an unloaded barbell! So I can
somewhat relate to what you're gripe is.
But usenet is totally different. A noob asking the same-damned-thing-
again doesn't detract from your experience if you don't click, much
less read, his post.
If anything, it's expectations like yours which make people shy about
asking a question -- or showing up at the gym!
I recently did find some places selling 12lbs or something like that,
but the prices were insane. Is this a new thing, too? I mean,
gasoline hasn't even jumped this much in price in the same amount of
time!
Economies of scale. The U.S. Gummint ain't stockpiling strategic
reserves or whey protein, for that matter.
I think it's to do with the increase in animal feed -- namely, corn.
Therefore, milk is more expensive, and thus whey (even though that's a
byproduct of milk which they used to throw away anyway so I'm not sure
what's up with that...). Add to that that strength athletes aren't
exactly a very big market, relatively speaking, I suppose it all adds
up...and up....
Besides, protein powder has always been expensive. As Rob Schuh says,
it's the biggest scam around! Unless you have in mind the recommended
and apparently proven advantages of pre, intra, and/or post-workout
supplementation with high-glycemic carbs, you should be eating whole
foods anyway for your protein needs.
Karl
Karl
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