Re: Not enough shoulder flexibility for squats?

"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@xxxxxxxxx> schreef:

It needs to be balanced, and the stress of that will go to the wrist.

No, it won't. It will go to the shoulder. Try it sometime.

As a teenager, i didnt have any money to go to a gym, so i tried all kind of
movements with free weights at home.

Did them all.

Alexeiev was a rare specimen, with wrists thicker than most guys annkles.

I've wrists thinner than Alexeiev pinkies, and I can balance a barbell
overhead with no problem. Actually a barbell is a bit easier than a
dumbbell. It has more rotational inertia so it sorta gives you a time
to react and counter its movement.

This is just wrong, even from a physics point of view.

A DB with a total weight of 40 pounds is easier to balance than a 7 feet bar
that weighs 40 pounds.

When I switch from a bar to a
dumbbell it is all over the place at the beginning, because I tend to
react both too late and too strong. But it's not the writs which balances
a dumbbell or a bar. Shoulders do the work.

The shoulders are attached to the humerus, not the hands. When the bar
wobbles, the hands move wrt the lower arm, which means there is movement at
the wrist joint.

But i really fail to see the point of pressing a barbell with one hand.
Long
DBs, like 2 feet, okay. But 5 ofeet or more is pointless.

Bar is better.

Why?

For once, you can get it in position by standing it on
one end and pivoting it on a fulcrum which consist of your elbow pressed
hard against your hip.

?!?!?!

That's why Artur Saxon advocated a barbell press
above a dumbbell press.


Arthur is wrong.

Beside that, you can keep a bar closer to your
body than a dumbbell. Heavy dumbbells tend to be bulky, which makes for
a slightly different lift and at the same time limits the weight you can
lift a little.

That problem can be circumvented with 1 1/2 2 footers, and lots of small
plates.

I did DB for years with that. i had 1 1/2 footer, with 5 plats of 5 on each
side. Easier than a 1 footer with plates of 10.
Like you said, too bulky.

But going beyond 2 feet is nonsense. Its counterproductive, as both centres
of gravity move away from the centre, which is the actual centre of gravity.

Imagine what would happen, virtually, if an olympic lifter had to lift 400
pounds with a 20 feet barbell.

Anyway, there is no extra danger coming from lifting a barbell as
compared with lifting a dumbbell. You can damage your wrist if they
hyperextend, but both implements are equal in this regard.

I was reffering to the lateral movement of the hand.

The pressing itself is sitll done by the same muscles as a DB, but due to
the inherent instabilty, the wrist gets a pounding.

It doesn't. Try it.

Did that 30 years ago. Just like flies and pullovers while lying on thee
floor. Did almost every movement i could come up with.

--
Pete


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