Re: Mr. Olympia Results

On Sep 30, 10:04 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Sep 30, 9:38 am, "Anonymoose" <anonymo...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Joe Weider's theory of faggery is that since having Arnold win the Olympia
six years in a row made it very popular, now every winner of the Mr. O gets
at least six years as the champion.

Just seems such a coincidence that many a Mr. O has a similarly long
reign. I mean, no other sportsmen or sports teams win year after year
in a row for so long,

Few other sports are judged as professional bodybuilding. Figure
skating? Dunno. But physique judging is subjective while most other
sports do not have that room for interpretation.

Ref 1: "So, I'm not sure I like how the ball went through the hoop.
The aesthetic appeal just didn't seem..."
Ref 2: "WOULD YOU STFU! THE BALL WENT *THROUGH* THE HOOP! IT DUZN'T
HAVE TO BE PRETTY DOING IT!!!!"

right?

Not a sports fan? I'm not so I won't fault you there, however I will
fault you for making comments without at least doing a cursory
Google.

How many consecutive division titles did the Steelers have in the
'70s?
What do you know about the Green Bay Packers?
Boston Celtics much?
Ever hear of the NHL's Edmonton Oilers? Montreal Canadiens? New York
Islanders?
Two words: Manchester United!
How many football championships did Yale have between1874 and 1909?
Talk to me about the New York Yankees.
What can you tell me about Richard Petty's driving record?
Or Dale Earnhardt's?

Coincidence? Hardly. In fact, it was Earnhardt's determination to win
that, imo, helped get him killed. He could have surged ahead in that
final race rather than blocking the competitors for his team. Instead
he acted as a buffer and tragically went into the wall. Coincidence?
No. Skill, drive, focus, determination allowed his success in the win
column.

And even without being a keen sports fan, I know the name Edwin Moses.
I'll lean on Wiki for the details, though:

122 consecutive wins

Coincidence? He got lucky?

You stated, "I mean, no other sportsmen or sports teams win year after
year in a row for so long." I say you're wrong.

Are there really just a literal handful of bodybuilders around
at that level??

Iirc, there were 24 who competed in the Mr. Olympia this year. At
least two chose to pass on the competition although they qualified.

I know this is a small sport -- or whatever it's to be called,
properly -- but surely the field of contenders can't be that
small as to have worked out so neat and tidy like that, in
six year cycles!

You say a six-year cycle because it fits with Yates' six Olympias.
It's a ridiculous theory. And even if it's spot on it doesn't change
anything from this fan's perspective. I enjoy the sport or performance
art - call it whatever you'd like. The athletes compete as long as
they choose to compete whether their placings are coincidence or not.
It is what it is. They can compete or not. They can voice their
concerns or they can work within the system to improve any problems
areas they believe need addressed. It's like anything.

Obviously the Mr. O winner makes a lot more than anyone else mostly due to
the endorsements. The Arnold Classic actually pays a lot more in prize money
(and a Hummer vehicle).

Really???

So how did vindictive Wieder let him get away with that??

PaW, you're making my "YOU'RE AN IDIOT!" Klaxons work overtime. How is
Weider vindictive? He's a smart businessman. He's a bodybuilding fan.
Lorimer and Schwarzenegger may have a better team working on retaining
those important sponsors. This year's Olympia prize money was nothing
to sneeze at and Pecker even stated that his goal is to eventually
hand out a million bucks in prize money.

I wonder if the <snip>Weider<snip>s were at the Mr. O this year? Those
guys are definitely in their 90s.

I can't imagine these guys to be too interested.

Work on that imagination, would you? ;o) They were both there.

They would have to really pay them pretty good.

How many zeros do you think were on that check that AMI cut to the
Weiders back in 2003?

(insert Jeopardy theme 'here')

A bunch to the amount of $357 million.

I mean, I get the sense that it's like a Star Trek convention...
and I can imagine that the "stars" get tired of humoring
the "trekkies"....

Finally you've written something that I can agree with. At least in
part. There are some interesting people at pro bodybuilding shows. At
the Atlantic City Pro show there was a guy with earlobes that made my
00 gauge holes seem like the typical 14 gauge Piercing Pagoda or
Claire's variation. He had a tattooed scalp and forearms. Just solid
black ink. Tons (more than likely that's literal, too) of women with
more muscle than any of your coworkers. And they were in the audience
and not on stage, too.

Likewise a Star Trek convention is filled with enthusiastic fans. I've
been to one. Author (ST paperbacks as well as comic books) Peter David
was attending. I took a copy of one of his books and got to speak with
him briefly and get an autograph on the book.

You may consider it humoring the fans, but many are appreciative and
realize that a fan base can be a ready source of cash as well as
appreciation for their hard work completed. I do agree that some fans
go overboard at least from my perspective. That's life, too. The
"stars" get used to it and learn to deal with it or they avoid the
expos or conventions. Simple as that.

Have you ever attended a bb comp or a Trek convention?

The AC Pro was my first pro show in years. The last was 1992's Arnold
Classic. There was that one Star Trek convention about ten or more
years ago and a number of comic book conventions since I used to work
as a comic store clerk. They're all fun.

I'm planning on attending the 2007 NABBA USA American Bodybuilding
Championships and the Ms. Figure America Championship as well as the
East Coast Grand Prix all being held this coming Saturday, October 6
at the Middletown Senior High School.

http://www.nabba.com/Schedule.cfm#October

I attended that one last year and it was an absolute blast.

--
Curt

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