Re: Hey Cohen, about the diet
- From: Will_S <satterwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:10:05 -0800
In article <C%EVf.10475$sL2.2503@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Will_S" <satterwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
John Hanson <jhanson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey David, I know you were able to shed a lot of weight fairly quickly
on Lyle's diet. But, did you ever test your strength levels while
dropping weight?
Well, I'm not David but I did just drop some weight for strongman. In
early January I cut out refined carbs (save for ~30 g timed right around
my workouts) except for on one cheat meal during the week and one day on
weekends. I added 25 mg ephedrine / 200 mg caffeine 3x a day, did 1-2
20 min light cardio sessions a week, plus one or two longer walks/hikes,
and did hard interval-type (tire flip, truck drag, farmers walk)
strongman event training once a week on weekends plus one event at some
point during the week. I dropped 15 lbs in 10 weeks with no noticeable
strength loss except maybe in the press, and got stronger at the front
squat and events (may have been a skill component there though).
Once I hit my target weight (actually I dipped below it, didn't weigh in
often enough) I relaxed my diet a bit, still fairly clean though, and my
press is stronger than ever as well.
As I understand it the E/C stack wouldn't be a problem for you in the
USAPL as long as you stop more than a week out, but you'd want to double
check on that. Also you'd want to be sure to allow yourself time to
taper off of it or you will crash bad.
I still allowed myself carbs in the form of whole grains etc. I read
Lyle's PSMF book and even tried the strict version for a week but my
training went to hell.
Page 29: "I'd say cut weight training back to maybe once every 3-4 days (or
twice a week) or so, doing a full body workout with a few heavy sets per
bodypart in the 6-8 repitition range."
Let me put on my Atheist Jew Psychic Telepathy Hat, Will, and predict that
you didn't do this.
Actually, depending on your definition of "few" sets I came pretty
close, although I stayed down in the 3-5 rep range. But when your full
body workout consists of log cleans and presses, deadlifts standing on
blocks, and stone rows (like a T-bar row, but grabbing around the
plates) you're going to suffer on a low-carb diet. I probably could
have made the PSMF work but I figured I'd try losing the weight on a
more moderate diet with a much higher activity level first - pretty much
what Lyle recommends in place of a crash diet even in his book on crash
dieting. Worked well enough and got me in better shape for strongman to
boot.
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