Re: Any Spiritual People In MFW?


"WillBrink" <WillBrink*NOSPAM*@Comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In article <do8va7$b5j$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "Dr_Dickie" <Dr_Dicke@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > "Axel of the North!" <axel@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:43a796ed.12804153@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > i was just wondering if there were any spiritual people left in MFW?
> > >
> > > i know there is culture of roughness and things of this nature in the
> > > "regular" community, but i'm sure that the miscellaneous and fitness
> > > aspects of this group would attract people of a spiritual nature.
> > >
> > > so are there any more people here who have read and/or experienced the
> > > interconnected nature of our Universe? anyone here with a coherent
> > > understanding of what the physicists converging on the
> > > multi-dimensional, psychedelic view of consciousness are talking
> > > about? these are very old ideas, and... from the very possible
> > > schizotypal perspective it sure is looking very convincing.
> > >
> >
> > Need to feel inadequate? Try this on for size:
> > Since the "big bang," the universe has been expanding (red shift data
and
> > all that). Okay, no problem, we all know that. Piece of cake to
understand.
>
> But not really as why it's expanding at the rate it's expending is not
> understood and is thought to be caused by dark energy and dark matter.
>
That is the mechanics of it, I mean the concept of the universe expanding is
easy to understand (not the particulars)


> > But, what you were likely not told was, the universe is not expanding
into
> > anything, it is expanding into that which does not exist.
>
> How so? I have not seen anything that makes such a statement. Do you
> mean expanding into a area that has no matter or are you talking about
> exanding into another universe or dimension?
>
Well, it is subtly stated in the big bang theory. What was there before the
big bang?
Matter did not exist. Did time? Did reality?

> > Think carefully about this. You could say reality itself is expanding.
>
> Reality is strictly a human concept and without effect in the universe.
> We have always tried to fit the universe into our reality, vs the other
> way around.
>
What is reality, but that which still exists without your need to believe in
it. But before the big bang, nothing existed.

>
> > Or, another way of looking at it is: "That which does exist is expanding
> > into that which does not exist."
>
> Still not sure how you mean that.
>
The universe (that which exists, or is) expands into what? Remember, it was
space, matter, and energy which exploded out of the the big bang. Again,
what was there before the big bang? The vastness of the universe (space) did
not exist. The universe is finite, but expanding. Beyond the expansion there
isn't.
I came apon this when teaching a class on Environmental Chemisty (I like to
start at the begining--the real begining, when chemicals greater than
duterium were formed). We are stardust...
I do not have my books here; however, this is along the lines of what I came
upon:
http://www.bigbang.org/

> > Such that, "that which does exist expands every day." Reality is
growing.
> > If you can really understand that, you don't.
> > Think about that while dancing around the Festivus pole this holiday
season.
>
> Nah, but I do like to think about what a speck of dust we are on this
> plaet to the overall vastness and the chances of there not being life on
> other planets is close to zero.
>
> >
> > Got a Kel-Tec 9mm and Colt M1911 coming in Thursday, just in time for
> > Festivus.
>
> One should always be well armed for Festivus.
>
> --
Of course, and most other times as well. Safety first!

--
Dr. Dickie
Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438
Poking kooks with a pointy stick.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries,
is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov


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