Re: Notice the Troll Lovers...

"Art S" <thedabbler02@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>"JMW" <jmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>"JMW" <jmw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> "Art S" <thedabbler02@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>"ATP*" <eugene@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> "John Hanson" <jhanson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> ...only post repeatedly to trolls? Engage them in a meaningful debate
>>>>>>> they run and hide like the piece of *** losers they are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the beginning I never killfiled anyone. Now I'm considering using
>>>>>> Agent and getting into some
>>>>>> more sophisticated filtering. I need to be able to kill threads. The
>>>>>> Outhouse Express filter rules
>>>>>> are worthless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Never tried it, but nfilter (http://www.nfilter.org/) is supposed to be
>>>>>good.
>>>>>
>>>>>Lets you filter on headers.
>>>>
>>>> Excellent! I'm surprised that Forté Agent hasn't incorporated that.
>>>> Just filter for:
>>>>
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.195.133.223
>>>>
>>>> Since you assumed the rule of arbiter for the IOM award, maybe you
>>>> could be arbiter of the MFW Official Killfile List. We could vote on
>>>> IP address entries to the list (no vetoes, of course), and with
>>>> sufficient votes, the new additions to the killfile list could be
>>>> submitted to Trygve to enter on the MFW web site. If newbies were
>>>> immediately attacked by trolls (most likely by the one whose IP
>>>> address is listed above), we could simply refer them to the URL for
>>>> the killfile list and recommend the newsreader add-on shown above.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think, Art?
>>>
>>>I have buried in my reference files a guy who did this on another newsgroup.
>>>I don't want to identify him because the trolls attack him when news of his
>>>deeds are posted.
>>>
>>>What he did was to simply start his own filtering program. Anything he
>>>considered to be inappropriate for the newsgroup as a whole would be
>>>filtered out via the various options available in nfilter.
>>>
>>>It worked pretty well because there are some folks who should have some more
>>>latitude to post what they wanted because they posted good on topic stuff as
>>>well as chatting outside of the general newsgroup focus.
>>>
>>>Bu anybody who was mean, political, religious or hate oriented was
>>>immediately filtered out. And as usual, the trolls did everything they
>>>could to trip him up. But by working at it each week, he does a pretty good
>>>job of keeping out the trash. It ain't 100 %, but like a good spam filter,
>>>it excludes most of the crap.
>>>
>>>He supplies this as his personal service to the group. And if we get bombed,
>>>he lets everybody know that this service is available. But he doesn't
>>>advertise it.
>>>
>>>I could probably dig it out. I assume that it is still operating. This
>>>would give you some idea of how somebody has implemented a nfilter program.
>>>
>>>And if anybody wanted to familiarize themselves with the program, they could
>>>offer their own personal filters to others.
>>
>> That might work well. Anyone could post his/her own killfile list.
>> First, a list of IP addresses of primary offenders with common (or
>> most recent) usernames to identify whose IP address it is. Then, a
>> list of subject header keywords that are likely to exclude only
>> undesirable posts, such as "bu$h."
>>
>> At that point, one's personal list can modified over time. Those who
>> are not persistent trolls but are regular troll enablers can be added
>> to your killfile list, but if decent, non-trolling quotes from them
>> show up in quotes from the posts of others, they can be purged from
>> the killfile.
>>
>> I'm willing to give it a try and report on how it works.
>
>I'm for it.
>
>I think you will need to include the free email ISPs in use and the
>troll(s) and non-trolls currently using them, as well. Remember when
>many people automatically killfiled AOL and WebTV?

Yes. I don't think this will be too much of a problem, though. Very
few WebTV posters these days. Dan Kirsner (withbacon) is the only one
I still see using an AOL IP address, except for an occasional post by
Mike Lane (Joe Humble) under an alternate identity.

Right now, Bill Davidson is posting directly through his ComCast IP
address. If he goes back to posting through Google Groups, his HTTP
IP address will still show up, and that can be killfiled.
.

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