Re: Brits new "shoot to kill" policy




<Ellis> wrote

> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:32:10 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
> <leemichaels@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>><Ellis> wrote in message
>>news:em0ae1tb54ei5d4n66m1samchb69cv6i9u@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:04:23 -0500, John Hanson
>>> <jhanson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>No it isn't and it sounds like these cops were nothing but incompetent
>>>>idiots.
>>>
>>> What should they have done differently?
>>>
>>Paticularly when they think it is a suicide bomber. The tactics they used
>>were specifically designed to stop a suicide bomber. Any bullet to the
>>body
>>can set off a very powerful explosive killing many people. The only way to
>>stop them is multiple headshots. Delivered fast enough that they can't
>>push
>>a button on the detonator.
>>
>>Situations was is that the retard acted like a suicide bomber and refused
>>to
>>cooperate with the police. It was ultimate stupidity. It is like those
>>morons who don't wear much clothing while driving in hot weather and get
>>stopped by the police. A certain percentage of them dive under the seat
>>to
>>get their license.
>>
>>They end up looking down the barrel of a gum. Usually protesting that the
>>armed response was some how inappropriate. Simple rules for dealing with
>>cops. Smile. Be courteous. Don't fight or argue. And don't do anything
>>that
>>looks like you are going to hurt anybody. Don't run. Etc., etc.
>>
>>Simple stuff. It ain't a conspiracy. It is just common sense and courtesy.
>>Something a lot of folks have trouble understanding and/or doing.
>>
>>Darwinism is alive and well.
>
> Wot Lee said.
>
> The only thing I don't understand about the police response is that
> they APPARENTLY allowed the guy to board a bus as part of his journey
> from the apartment to the subway station. This seems odd if they
> already thought he was maybe a suicide bomber (and buses have already
> been shown to be as much a target of the bombers as trains).
>
> Also APPARENTLY the guy's visa had expired (and it seems was never the
> sort of visa that would have allowed full-time employment anyway).
> This MAY explain why the guy bolted when the police told him to stop.
>
I had no idea about the immigration thing.

But it doesn't change anything. On Cops, there are often cases where a
dumbass decides to flee because of a minor warrent. Usually something on the
order of a few days jail time or a fine. Instead they choose to turn it
into several major felonies and a big portion of their lives behind bars. Or
a major injury. Or even, such as this case, their own death.

And everybody is acting like the cops did the wrong thing. For those folks,
I have to ask a question. How willing would you be to chase down a suspect
that may have many pounds of plastic explosives and ball bearing attached to
their body? The guy was a moron who thought his own problems were more
important than the national security of a sovereign nation.

He was an idiot. He got exactly what he deserved.

Another thing. Everybody is bitching and moaning about the death of a
simpleton. How do you think that the police officers felt about this? I bet
they are devastated. None of the whiners are saying anything positive or
supportive about these brave officers. Talk about a thankless job.

I will say it right now. I extend my deepest sympathies and respect to the
selfless, brave acts that these London LEO's did. And for having to deal
with all its aftermath. Folks like you are what separates us from the
savages. Thank you sirs. Job well done.

Lee





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