Re: Do you consider this software licensing practice ethical? I am furious!

tekfetish@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Dec 26, 2:04 am, d...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Don Klipstein) wrote:
In article <88i3n3h4sclvi0sd62vabhu5956277t...@xxxxxxx>, Scott in
SoCal wrote:
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 12:02:59 -0800, LDC
<ldcol...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It appears that if you replace or reformat the harddrive windows
resides on you will use an additional activation when you try to
use or install the program again. They are probably hiding a
"file" somewhere on the boot disk if not in the boot sectors.

Note that from the standpoint of an application there is no
difference between replacing and reformatting the windows
partition.

And Scott asks why you don't just restore an image. That would do
little good if it meant reloading a defective OS.

All this talk about defective OSes and reformatting hard drives is a
bit far-fetched, don't you think? How often do you think the typical
user of a quilting program has a defective OS or reformats their
hard drive? I have systems here that have NEVER been reformatted,
let alone 4 times in one night...

4 times in 2-3 years I find easy to believe! All too often Windows
crashes especially badly, so badly as to have best recovery being
reformat and reinstall all programs and then copy data from backups!

Actualy, I only have it that bad maybe once per 2 years on average,
but I still consider it mean to not allow for people to endure
Windows crashes so bad as to not allow a successful uninstall before
reformat!
heck, I had plenty of Windows crashes bad enough to not let me
uninstall
a lot of my programs until I fully recover from the Windows crash!

- Don Klipstein (d...@xxxxxxxxx)

My system is functioning okay most of the time when I reformat/
reinstall. I usually do it whenever I create a redundant backup to
keep off site.

Helps me keep my file structure clean and organized, remove all traces
of softwares and drivers that I am no longer using, takes care of any
strange quirks that crept into the system over time, and reinstalls
all my major software.

Perhaps repair installs, as Ron mentions,
take care of all such issues now days.

Nope, but it should allow you to uninstall any app that needs to be
uninstalled to preserve as many activations as possible over reformats.

I'm not sure how it would remove all the software I've installed

It doesnt, in fact it does the exact opposite, preserves
the installs that you dont explicitly uninstall.

and no longer used in its entirety- uninstalling
definitely doesn't work perfectly all the time.

It should with the particular software being discussed tho, and thats the
only one that matters since they others dont limit the number of activations.

It certainly wouldn't reinstall the majority of my core
applications afterwards either, if it did remove them all.

Like I said, it does the exact opposite, removes the need to reinstall everything.

If it is able to resolve all DLL hell-related issues- well, I know better.

No you dont until you have tried it.

I'll stick with unattended installs and reformats myself.

You're welcome to do that and just use the repair install to
ensure that you can uninstall the particular software being
discussed and not lose an activation on a reformat.

I would expect more people to be Ghosting than resorting to repair installs-

You clearly dont understand the difference then.

The whole point of a repair install is that it drastically reduces the number
of times you need to do a clean reinstall of the OS and all the apps.

And there are restore points too, there's a lot more options that just imaging/ghosting
now, and neither has the downside of imaging/ghosting that you lose all the settings
and installs done since the imaging/ghosting was done and the other stuff like emails etc.

has it really improved that much?

Yep. Its by far the single biggest improvement in modern OSs in recent times.

Corse you are always welcome to JUST use it to ensure that you can uninstall
that particular app before doing a clean reinstall if thats what you want to do.


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