Re: Will gas be over $20 a gallon by Christmas?



"Ted B." <noway@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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>To extract oil from tar sands, it takes the energy produced from half a
>barrel of oil for each barrel of oil extracted. If we have to resort to tar
>sands for oil, the world economy WILL collapse.

That's not nescessarily bad, if the supply of tar sand would support it. There's
a great book by Huber that points out that our main use of energy isn't
lighting, locomotion, or cooling; what we use energy for, mainly, is to extract,
refine, process, and purify energy itself.

<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465031161/qid=1125409366/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-8090936-9409668?v=glance&s=books&n=507846>
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