Re: How's KDE v4.22 compared to v3.5.10?
- From: "Geoffrey Clements" <geoffrey.clementsNO@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:33:07 +0100
"Ant" <ANTant@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello.
I noticed a few days ago, a lot of updated KDE packages on my Debian's
apt-get:
[snip]
I have never tried v4, except looking at screen shots and reading people's
comments. Can I easily roll back to v3 with apt-get?
Are you using Testing? I ask because I am also using testing and I did this
upgrade from kde 3.5.10 a couple of days ago. To be honest the upgrade was a
bit of a nightmare. I use aptitude and seeing the long list of kde upgrades
I was finally happy that I was going to kde 4.x.
A few weeks ago I installed Ubuntu in a virtual machine in order to try kde4
before having it suddenly launched on me and I would recommend doing this as
there are some differences from kde3.
So I went ahead and got aptitude to do the upgrade, after that nothing
graphical worked except kdm which had not been upgraded. I logged out and
tried to login, kdm just hung. I restarted the PC - same problem. I
restarted in single user mode and tried startx, got the normal X blank
screen but nothing else. Fired up aptitude only to find that I'm no longer
connected to the internet. Found that wlan0 was not connected to my wireless
network although the interface was configured.
After a bit of debugging I discovered that somewhere in the upgrade
wireless-tools had been removed. Used my laptop to download wireless-tools
and its dependency, copied the packages across with a flash stick and used
dpkg to install wireless-tools.
Once I got back on the net I had a look through the kde packages, it seems
that the upgrade had installed some kde4 packages but not others. I saw a
packages called kde-full had a look at the description and decided I had
nothing to loose by trying it. So I installed the kde-full meta-package and
after that everything just worked! Oh - except for mounting of cds and dvds,
I had to remove the entry in fstab for the dvd drive before kde would mount
it.
Now I've been using kde4 in earnest for a couple of days which isn't enough
to make a proper assessment. Overall I like it - I think there have been
some big usability improvements:
I like:
- the removal media device manager widget
- the way sound "just works" and you can prioritise the sound devices
- the new styles - they are easier on the eye IMHO
- the desktop widget thingy-mo-bob
- the tabs in kmail
I dislike:
- the hiding of some complexity - seems to be going the same way as Gnome -
in particular I no longer seem to be able to explicitly set up file
associations. AFAICT you can only do this through the "Open As" dialogue
box.
- the removal of kwickview - Gwenview keeps complaining when I rotate images
- the dependency on mysql server
I am ambivalent about:
- the window effects - nice to look at and play with but doesn't add much to
usability.
- Dolphin file manager - nice to use but I was happy with Konq.
I have found the k3b is still using kde3.* libraries but other than that
everything else I use has moved to kde4.
--
Geoff
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