Re: The Great Geometry Muddle

In article <IrwnBv.9Jv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Charles Lindsey" <chl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
[...]
> What a Muddle! However did they come to design a system like that?

Messed up badly on consistent save/restore, obviously.

It also doesn't bother to record icon positions in such a way that they
can be restored after a window manager restart; likewise, if a window
is maximized when the window manager is restarted, that information
(and the non-maximized size) is lost; the window ends up with its new
non-maximized size being the earlier maximized size.

IMO, TOG and the contributing companies need to agree to open-source
(fully) Motif and CDE; a BSD-ish license, I think, as that's compatible
with the most other licenses and uses. Then someone should fix the damn
thing to take care of those various quirks, and introduce a new resource
that controls compatibility, in case the fixes might break anything:
the resource would have a list of named fixes, "all", or "none", so that
one might choose which fixes were enabled; defaulting to not changing
anything, but allowing one to easily apply as many of the fixes as were
helpful with the variety of clients one used. That resource would also
have a corresponding property on the root window (something that all
clients could easily find dynamically), allowing dtstyle to be extended
with options to manipulate it (so users don't have to edit some mystery
file and log out/in to set it as they wish).

If CDE is to continue, it needs some attention more than just from one
of the contributing companies (which they might well keep to themselves,
or the others might choose not to integrate into their branches).
If it's on its last legs as some think, then it's not worth enough to
worry about what's being lost by giving it away.

Simply fading away without even the option for proper self-support is far
and away the worst option; even if people aren't willing to pay for proper
support to make it worthwhile, I bet there are enough that would prefer
the option of keeping it that some customers who would pay for other
things would be alienated by the absence of that option.

But what do I know...

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