Re: a question about ligatures



On May 5, 6:08 am, Hendrik Maryns <gtw37b...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Dan schreef:
| On Apr 30, 4:34 am, Hendrik Maryns <gtw37b...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
|> GIYF:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_Gr
|
| Read that. It says to use Ctrl-Alt instead in windows. Still no
| effect in my editor. In Firefox it produces nothing also

I explicitly said: on qwerty ‘en-US with deadkeys’. The whole stuff
between the quotes is the keyboard layout. Also in Windows, you have
the possibility to choose that one, although it is slightly different
from what I have here on Linux. The æ, however, is at the same place.

|> | 2. I don't know what "deadkeys" is (are?).
|>
|>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout
|
| I read that. A dead key is one that does nothing when
| pressed but causes an accent to appear on the next
| vowel pressed. My keyboard has none of these, and that
| web page doesn't tell me how to change that. There was
| no indication that this has any relation to \ae.

If your keyboard has no dead keys, then it does not have en-US
international, and hence, you will not be able to type æ directly. You
have to enable that.

But you found out this stuff now, should have read the rest of your post
first.

|> ~ Some key-binding software?
|> | What OS? What editor(s)? What system requirements?
|>
|> Standard on most any OS and system, you just have to enable them/set
|> your keyboard to it.
|
| How. I've searched WinXP help files and played around with
| Control Panel for an hour and I couldn't find a thing.
|
| Googling finally showed me something useful. Deadkeys is
| a complete red herring. The requirement in WinXP is to enable
| the US-International keyboard layout. Googling for
| "US-international keyboard layout in Windows" told me what
| to do in the first link. See what I can do now ææææææ!
|
|> | 3. Alt-z (with either Alt key) does absolutely nothing in my editor.
|>
|> See first link, there is a difference between left Alt and right Alt
|> (usually).
|
| Not in every keyboard. In particular not the US (English) layout in
| WinXP.

Note that the keyboard is entirely independent of the OS.

It is explained in the Wikipedia article above. Just a convention.

|> | 4. In my typing style, it is _still_ easier to type "\ae" (though I
|> | expect
|> | that would change if I had to type this frequently).
|>
|> Well, yes, but after a while you get to know where the funny chars
|> are.
|
| Where they are is not the problem: pressing right-Alt
| (or Ctrl-Alt) is awkward (for me). Three quick regular
| keystrokes flows better. Also, typing some things is now
| harder, as they now require two keys instead of one. Pardon
| me while I switch back to my old layout.

Go on. It’s your decision. I however, like to be able to type ë in my
e-mails as well, without having to use the idiotic Belgian azerty
layout. And at the same time, I can use ß in my German e-mails, and I
can type æ whenever I want to… (Still have to find a trick for the
ellipsis though, now it goes with Gnome’s panel utility, but it’s still
annoying).

I usually say: <Ctrl+U> <2> <0> <2> <6> <Enter>, which
should work in any GTK app.

Iy should probably be added to Xorg's Compose file
and to GTK's simple input method (maybe filing a
bug in gnome's bugzilla against GTK requesting for
its addition to GTK's compose list would be enough:
it is a one line change to one file!)

-- m
.



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