Re: TeX/LaTeX isn't easy

Will Robertson wrote:
[insult deleted] you didn't use a relevant subject

There wasn't a more relevant one that occurred to me.

and the very first reply to your question contained a
pointer to more information to solve your problem.

No, it didn't. It asked for a "minimal example" and linked to something
about questions. I didn't need more questions, I needed answers, and
"how to" questions don't need "minimal examples". It seems the links
may have been to a legitimate FAQ, but I browsed the TOC of that FAQ
the other day and didn't see any entry whose title suggests it to be at
all relevant to the question of how to make a command's behavior
sensitive to whether it's at a page boundary.


After your complaining for not receiving enough info, you were then given
instructions on how to retrieve the relevant code from memoir.cls.

Actually, first someone suggested I use (or assumed I already was
using) the class, and based on its name I assumed it was specifically
for memoirs -- its being named for a narrower class of uses than it's
actually intended for is of course not my fault -- and therefore
unsuitable, and I said as much.

Later, I was indeed given instructions on how to get and adapt code
from the class to use with my existing choice of document class:
incomplete instructions that seemed to make the situation vastly worse,
rather than better, since it went from "this could be typeset better"
to "errors out during the preamble, no pages of output" -- about as
much worse as it could possibly have made things get, as a matter of
fact. Later, the extra bit of instruction that had been
(intentionally?) neglected before was provided, grudgingly, but those
instructions really should have been complete in the first place.

Attempting to switch my document over also caused clashes, and a
fundamental miscommunication (both by the otherwise-excellent memoir
manual and by members of this group) was to talk at me as if I were
developing a project from scratch, while I was approaching them as one
who was seeing if they could adapt an existing project to the new
document class. We talked right past each other, as a result.

The problem is solved, there's nothing left to discuss. Let's not
continue this thread, huh?

I haven't been proactively continuing it since the problem was solved,
as a matter of fact. However, every so often some dipshit or another
posts a new article to it that insults me or otherwise takes aim at me
and I am forced to defend myself. The thread will obviously continue
until non-innocuous posts to it quit being made that force their
targets to pipe up in self-defense, or various people just get fed up
and killfile one another. I'm afaid there's little you or I can do
about that, save to not post any further personal attacks or lies about
one another or other participants here, and hope others follow suit;
then after a last round of defensive rebuttals, the thread will, in
fact, die. Hopefully.

It's getting unwieldy anyway, particularly in the terrible Google
interface, which forces me to click "newer" six or seven times now to
get to the new posts, see what if anything necessitates a rebuttal, and
(inevitably) reply. There doesn't seem to be any way to jump directly
to the newest postings! (Clicking the "x new of 140-odd" link instead
of the title link still goes to the first 25...grr...anyone clicking
that is obviously specifically wanting to jump to the first unread
post; surely they realize that! Anyone know of a free nntp server that
carries the major non-binary groups and lets members munge their email
addresses?)

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