Re: yandy fonts --- licensing

ivowel@xxxxxxxxx schrieb: 
dear tug officials/members:  I bought the lucida fonts from yandy a
long time ago.  yandy were eager not to allow full embedding of fonts
into tex documents, but insisted on subsetted fonts.  (it actually
seemed like a dumb policy: who with the technical sophistication to
extract fonts with all the surrounding information from a pdf document
does not have the sophistication to steal fonts to begin with?  [or buy
them, copy/steal them, and then resell them.])  If TUG now owns and
resells the lucida fonts, will it allow straightforward full inclusion
of the font in pdflatex generated documents?

I guess TUG will not have bought but licensed the fonts, so their reselling policy will have some constraints.

I am fighting a war of fonts here. 

Now that sounds fruitful.

I have a latex text with lucida
fonts, which contains graphics created by R, using lucida fonts.  R
cannot embed fonts, and generally has postscript/pdf weaknesses.  (They
do not have the technical resources right now to learn how to embed
fonts, and are struggling with CJK fonts.)  For now, I have to run the
R graphics through ghostscript to embed the lucida fonts.  When I
include them in my latex (lucida) documents, the same fonts are
embedded both in my latex document and in my R graphics (and then my
printer complains about same-name fonts), etc.  To an outsider, the
right solution would be to have one document that includes the complete
fonts at the beginning, and then all latex and included graphics could
use the fonts.  this would not only be simpler, but also smaller in
filesize, probably.  of course, this may be naive, too...

You're using pdflatex? -> export to eps, the conversion to pdf will include the fonts.

You're using latex? -> Don't include the font in the eps, don't allow dvips to subset and let the pdf generating application do the subsetting.

Technical sophistication to extract a font from a ps/pdf? You're kidding? pdftosrc(+cfftot1) give you the pfb, the current version of FontForge can directly read fonts from a pdf (so far only if stored in a certain format, though). For extracting a font from a .ps a texteditor suffices.

In addition to saving space, subsetting can prevent printers from running out of memory. Allowing only subsetting is very common for font foundries, some even have special (more expensive) licensing for documents to be put on the web.

Michael
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