Re: Keychain Access
- From: dempson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (David Empson)
- Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:12:40 +1200
Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:
In article 1j6ild7.12ulkde17vrse8N%dempson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, David Empson at
dempson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 9/23/09 5:15 AM:
Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:
I just did an A&I and upgrade to 10.5.8. When I attempted to check my email
in Entourage, I got this dialog:
The "Microsoft Entourage" software on your computer has changed and
wants to access your keychain. Do you want to allow this? This change
is permanent and affects all keychain items used by this software.
Is this normal/to be expected?
Probably.
The keychain keeps track of which applications have been granted
permission to access each item, and the version of the application.
Assuming Entourage didn't actually get downgraded or upgraded as part of
your reinstall,
Sounds like a reasonable assumption...though we _are_ talking about a MS
app. ;)
If you did a system archive & install, and installed Apple's system
updates, without doing anything else (such as also deleting and
reinstalling your Microsoft Office installation), then you are still
running the same version of Entourage (as well as every other Apple and
third party application which isn't installed as part of Mac OS X).
I suspect the issue is that there is a central database
to keep track of application versions granted access to any keychain
items, and Archive & Install was sufficient to reset the "in sync" flag
in that database for every application (including Entourage).
Answer Allow (or Always Allow, or Yes, as appropriate)
I did...I hesitated only because of concern something nefarious might be
going on. I probably wouldn't have been as concerned were it not an MS app
(susceptible to hidden malware).
and you shouldn't be asked again (as far as Entourage is concerned)
until next time you install an Entourage update, or do another Archive &
Install.
The MS updates come out periodically, and I install them when they do. There
hasn't been one recently.
I don't understand what decisions OS X makes when doing it's A&I magic
It is quite simple.
1. It puts aside your existing System, Library, Applications and Users
folders, moving them into a Previous Systems folder.
2. New system is installed, creating new System, Library, Applications
and Users folders. The Applications folder is initially populated only
with the applications that are installed as part of Mac OS X.
3. Moves all other applications back from the archived Applications
folder to the new one. (The archived Applications folder is left with
only the previous copies of applications which were installed as part of
Mac OS X, e.g. Mail, Safari, etc. This is almost always useless.)
4. Moves or copies all known application support files from the archived
Library folder to the new one. (The archived Library and System folders
contain the remaining files which A&I didn't think were needed.)
5. If you told it to keep user accounts, moves all the user home folders
back to the new Users folder, and creates a new user database, copying
the appropriate information out of the old one.
6. Copies most preferences out of Library, optionally including network
preferences.
-- I can't quite sort out what's been "archived" and what hasn't...seems
like there's (apparent) "duplication" (same apps in both the archived Apps
folder as well as the new App folder),
Just the standard applications Apple installs as part of Mac OS X. The
old copies are useless unless you had done something particularly
unusual to them which you wanted to keep.
as well as some apps (associated with my printer, for example) that are
"split" between the old and new folders, etc.
In some cases, there may be third party files in the archived Library
folder which A&I doesn't move/copy to the new folder. This is generally
because they were installed in an unusual place and A&I doesn't know
they are significant. You may find you need to reinstall some
applications after doing an A&I, unless you can manually locate and move
the additional files required by those applications.
A&I also doesn't copy any third-party software in System. That is
deliberate.
So, I _guess_ A&I could've somehow looked for 3rd-party installers and did
actual 3rd-party app reinstallations (including Entourage) along the way,
but I would've thought I'd have been asked to enter license numbers, etc.
were that the case.
Definitely not. It simply moved the applications and the recognised
support files in Library.
In the meantime, I'm still waiting for things to settle: Spotlight has been
reindexing since the A&I, and TM is deep-traversing its heart out. While all
of this is going on, my system's performance is as poor as (in certain
respects, _worse than_) it was before.
All as expected.
--
David Empson
dempson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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