Re: Fed up with Apple
- From: J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:53:12 -0500
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:19:20 -0500, David Empson wrote
(in article <1iao7uu.1ybvye0hjllsaN%dempson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>):
J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:19:50 -0500, Gregory Weston wrote
(in article <uce-7ABBEE.15195012012008@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>):
In article <0001HW.C3AE67B30005C934F01846D8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
he doesn't need a DVD drive.
He does if he wants to install a more recent version of the OS, which is
what my last comment was in regard to (not the Airport bundle, which I
now suspect is what you were getting at above). Unless he can find one
of those copies of 10.4 on CDs, of course, but I imagine they're on the
rare side.
He can get CDs from Apple to install Leopard
I doubt that very much. They offered it with Tiger, but I have not seen
any mention of a similar offer for Leopard.
I thought I'd seen such an offer, but I'm probably wrong on that. I really
should stop posting at 01:00. I really should.
Given the size of the install DVD, it would require about ten CDs. Tiger
was six (including developer tools).
More like a dozen, I think. I'm looking for where I thought I saw the offer
but not finding it, which suggests strongly that I made a mistake.
Nearly all models which Leopard officially supports have at least a
Combo drive. The only exceptions I can see are a few of the earlier
Xserve models, which had CD-ROM drives.
By an amazing coincidence, the 867 MHz cut-off point eliminates support
for several models which came with CD-ROM drives. Those near the cutoff
point with CD-RW drives are:
eMac: 700 and 800 MHz
iMac G4: 700 MHz
PowerMac G4 (QuickSilver): 733 MHz
PowerMac G4 (QuickSilver 2002): 800 MHz
I almost never consider PowerMacs (even G3s) as having only CD-ROMs because
one of the first things I used to do with them (once DVD burners dropped in
price to something reasonable) was to yank the CD drive (or, in some cases,
the DVD-ROM) and replace it with a DVD-R. I still have an old Apple-supplied
DVD-ROM inside an external FireWire case; I use it when I have to install
something which requires multiple DVDs or even multiple CDs. (<cough>Adobe
CS, I'm thinking of _you_.</cough>) I've even replaced the drives in a few
eMacs and iMacs; it's a pain to do that, which is why I've not done it for
all of them the way I did it for all PowerMacs, but it makes for standardised
setups.
(The 867 MHz requirement also catches a few others in its net which have
better optical drives and similar speeds.)
or he could do FireWire Target Mode, or several other, less convenient,
things.
Agreed.
Mostly I have elected to just install DVD-Rs. I find that Lite-On makes
several cheap, reliable-enough, though not particularly speedy drives which
will work on most non-slot-loading desktop Macs down to beige G3s. And that
the Apple-supplied CD drives make excellent paperweights.
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