Re: Newbie: Is there a Mac equivalent to Ctrl-Alt-Del?

Dear friends (please, scroll to the bottom of the message):

Mark Conrad <noneof@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <r3tnn3t84p4ogsm2co665tcnf5ggm80t96@xxxxxxx>,
Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sorry, Jolly, but I don't understand you:

1) I am the person who initiated the thread with a technical
question.

2) "M-M" (I don't know who is he/she) was very kindly and posted
a very interesting answer to my question.

3) But "M-M" answer was somewhat obscure to me (I am not a Mac
expert) and I asked for a clarification. And,

4) Marc Heusser posted a message that clarified "M-M" answer for
me.

What is wrong here?


Jolly Roger <jollyroger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <bmnnn3502ubdotp2gmnjde5g1mepe1mrlj@xxxxxxx>,
Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks a lot!!!!

But is it true that "holding down the power button for a few seconds
will force a shutdown", or maybe "holding down the power button for a
few seconds" is the equivalent to a "brute force power off", with the
posible consequence of loosing information (buffers that they weren't
copied to hard disk, etc.)?

M-M <nospam.m-m@xxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <igcnn35cpdu9vks2kjil8s39gn00256mlb@xxxxxxx>,
Juan I. Cahis <jiclbchSINBASURA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear friends:

Is there a Mac equivalent to Ctrl-Alt-Del?

My problem is that a couple of times I get the hourglass mouse icon
for ever (the small colored circle), even if I try to press the Apple
button at the left top. And curiously, the computer doesn't seems to
be hung, simply it seems that the Finder is waiting something for
ever.

How can I force a shutdown or a Finder restart in that situation?
Remember that the Apple button is also unresponsive.

alt-cmd (the Apple key)-esc will allow you to force quit an unresponsive
application, as will click and hold on the dock icon of that application.

ctrl-cmd-power button will force a restart.

holding down the power button for a few seconds will force a shutdown.
Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

Note: You've been doing something we call "top posting" which is
considered bad etiquette in Usenet news groups such as this one. It's
not the end of the world, but may be something you wish to correct in
the future. Thankfully, it's easily remedied, and no level-headed person
will hold it against you if you correct your posting style now! As with
most things, the decision is yours - do whatever you think is best:

<http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html>
<http://www.albion.com/netiquette/>

This should illustrate the problem to you:

A: Because it reverses the flow of conversation.
Q: Why is top-posting frowned upon on Usenet?
A: Top-posting (aka TOFU - Top-post Over, Full quote Under)
Q: What is one of the most annoying things in news groups
Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!


Hi Juan, welcome to the Mac NGs :)

This post is an example of "Bottom Posting".

Self-appointed net cops like Jolly Roger want you to have to
wade through all the previous history of a thread on each and
every post. Ignore their efforts to brain-wash you.

'Bottom Posting' is near and dear to Mac advocates, they think
bottom posting is the greatest thing since sliced bread.


Actually, it wastes time, because no one in their right mind is
going to actually _read_ all the crap above in this post,
or any other "Jolly Roger Approved" bottom posting.

For one thing, it is too hard to identify who posted what.

If you want to observe just how ridiculous bottom posting is,
observe the l-o-o-n-g posts in the comp.sys.mac.advocacy
newsgroup. Some are extremely long posts, with often a
one line reply at the very bottom of each post.

Can you imagine anyone stupid enough to read those long posts
in order to get to the one-line response at the bottom of
each post?


Continue to top post, I find your style of posting very logical
and refreshing.

Mark-

I find this discussion very amusing!!!!

Bottom posting was very popular 35 to 40 years ago when we (yes, I did
it) used old mechanical teletype terminals to post messages in the
discussion groups in the Internet (well, at that time it was called
"Arpanet", "Tymnet" etc.)

Do you remember the very popular ASR-33 Teletype terminals of that
times? They had "automatic scrolling", because they printed their
output on a 100 yards roll of paper!!!! (And a "hard copy" of the
discussion was kept in a roll of punched paper tape too!!!!)

But modern times have arrived, and the new terminals (PCs) don't have
that characteristic, so politely I suggest to update the Netiquette
rules to a more tolerant ones to Top Posting.

Amen.


Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
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