Re: G4 TiBook wrecked by 10.4.11 updater?



Stan The Man <man@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Probably not wrecked but I can't figure out what to do. I had been
happily running Os 10.4.9 on this machine and made the mistake of
accepting Software Update's invitation to move up to 10.4.11 and
Quicktime 7.3. The software duly came down and the background
installation seemed to be going ok - until I got a message saying that
the installation couldn't complete because of insufficient disk space
(there had been 1GB free)

That is not enough space for safe operation of Mac OS X under normal
circumstances, let alone while doing a system update.

and that the Os updater had been moved to the trash for me to install
later. I was instructed to restart - didn't have any other option,
actually - and now I can't boot into OsX at all. I get a panic message
as soon as the machine tries to boot from the internal drive, which
says:

"panic (cpu 0 caller 0x002E59BC): Unable to find driver for this
platform (PowerBook 3.5")"

What has probably happened is that the 10.4.11 update has been partially
installed and left you with a corrupted system because it stopped half
way through.

To get your system booting again, you will have to at least delete some
files to make plenty of room.

You may be able to get a working system by reinstalling the 10.4.11
update, but it will have to be done by downloading the update from
Apple's web site manually, as you can't boot the system and use Software
Update.

If that doesn't work, you will need to reinstall 10.4 from the original
DVD and then reapply all the system updates.

The two main options you have for a full reinstall will be an "erase and
install" (which will wipe everything, so you need to keep copies of all
your files), or an "archive and install" (which will require even more
free space than installing the 10.4.11 update, as it will install a
fresh copy of the entire system and leave the old one there for you to
tidy up).

For all of these solutions, you will probably need an external hard
drive or another computer to assist.

I tried a couple more times with the same result and then I tried to
boot from what I thought was my original Os 10.x install disk -- and
got the message to shut down the computer. Now I'm thinking this was my
son's install disk for his G5

Was it a DVD with a grey label? If so, it is model-specific and should
say on the label which model it belongs to.

and not my original TiBook disk but I have looked high and low and can't
find any other install disk apart from the 10.4 and 10.5 disks which came
with my new iMac and ditto with my new MacBook Pro. I suppose there's no
point in even trying those?

No. The 10.4 DVDs will be model specific (and Intel-only).

If you got a "CPU Drop-in DVD" of 10.5 with those computers, it could be
used to install Leopard on the TiBook (as long as it is the last model -
867 MHz or faster), but that would be a violation of the licence, since
those copies of Leopard are only for use with the new computers.

Which model is your TiBook? (CPU speed might be enough to narrow it
down, but there are some overlaps.) It was originally supplied with a
white cardboard envelope with a grey Apple logo, containing a set of CDs
which will have included anything from Mac OS 9.1 up to 10.2.3,
depending on the model.

To have got 10.4 on there in the first place, you should have had a
retail 10.4 DVD. It would probably be in a black box labelled "Mac OS X
Tiger", and the DVD has a black label with a big "X" on it.

That disc is what you need to fix the system on the TiBook. If you end
up wiping everything and reinstalling the system, you might also want
the original CD set for that computer, so you can reinstall the bundled
software (if you care about it - old versions of iPhoto, for example).

What else can I do? If I can boot into OsX I can at least trash some
files and reinstall the 10.4.11 updater. Can I do something in Target
Disk mode?

Yes, that might be enough. For best results you should be working with a
computer with a PowerPC processor, running 10.4. Is your son's G5 an
option?

Doing this with an Intel Mac or a computer running Leopard might be
tricky - the system updater might not like running on the "wrong"
platform.

You can certainly do the first part (trashing enough files to free up
some space) using any other Mac.

Put the TiBook in target mode (hold down T while starting it up) then
connect it to any of the other computers with a Firewire cable.

You should see its drive mount in Finder. I suggest running Disk Utility
and verifying the disk before doing anything else.

Now you need to delete enough files to free up plenty of space: 2 GB
should be enough to run the 10.4.11 update again, but I'd recommend more
than that. You will need at least 6 GB free to be able to do an "Archive
and Install".

You will need the Mac OS X 10.4.11 "Combo" update from Apple:

http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx10411comboupdateppc.html

This might not run on an Intel Mac or Leopard, as noted above.

Run the 10.4.11 combo update and install it on the TiBook's drive.

Next, eject the TiBook and try restarting it.

If it still doesn't work, you will probably need to reinstall the entire
system. (More on that later, if necessary.)

At least I know that the TiBook hard drive isn't hosed - I can still
boot it up from the installed Os 9.2 so I can get copies of important
files - but that doesn't help me to get OsX updated or reinstalled.
Unfortunately, I don't have a backed up OsX system for the TiBook. Even
if my only option is to wipe the drive and start over, it looks as
though I no longer have the original install disks so I'll be up
against a brick wall again I think.

Ah, if 9.2 is booting, you can probably use that to delete some files.
You will still need another bootable Mac OS X system on a hard drive (or
another computer with Target mode) to be able to get the 10.4.11 combo
update installed on the TiBook.

--
David Empson
dempson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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