Re: 10.4.10: system components to safely delete?

Eric P. wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:55:48 -0700, The Natural Philosopher replied
(in article <1182931013.1742.0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>):

Bob Harris wrote:
In article <0001HW.C2A668D00003068FF0407530@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Eric P. <ericpNOSPAM06@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

I'm curious to know if there are any OS X 10.4.10 system components that I can safely delete without compromising the system's integrity on my G4 Quicksilver. I'd like to remove things that I don't need, and that the system doesn't need, but I don't want to delete in haste, and repent at leisure ;) I know I don't need anything wireless, and I'm the admin and only user of the system.

This computer is connected to an HP inkjet printer, an external FW HD, and sometimes a USB scanner, as well as to a G4 Sawtooth booted in Target Disk mode to access OS 9 apps. I'm currently trying to get an M-Audio Solo FW recording interface to work with it, too, but so far the system doesn't recognize the unit, though I've installed the sw. I do word processing, spreadsheeting, database creation/maintenance, image and audio editing, gaming, and of course Web/e-mail/newsgroup reading.

This is my first properly functioning OS X system. So far, it works like a dream, though the Quicksilver definitely could use more RAM than 512MB ;)

Any helpful advice will be most welcome and appreciated!

Thanks and happy computing,
Eric


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Are you worried about disk space or RAM? Deleting files will not affect RAM.

As others have said, removing language fonts that you are not going to use is the biggest band for the buck.

Saving RAM is a function of what you run concurrently. Run fewer apps at the same time (not reading/sending mail, quit the mail app; not surfing the web, quick the browser, etc...). Turning of services (especially the sharing services) will stop using some RAM. Do not use Dashboard widgets. Remove utilities that put things in the menu bar. These are some ways to save RAM usage.

However, this is Unix. Applications that are not *using* CPU cycles will be swapped out to swap if RAM gets low. Apart from a bit of overhead in the scheduler, they really don't take up RAM at all.


Or buy more RAM :-)

Bob Harris

I can remember when I found UNIX to be impressive in stability and functionality, but uncomfortable from a UI standpoint. I'd think "If only this OS had a beautiful, elegant, and highly customizable GUI, I'd be in computer heaven."

My attidued was 'thank god it hasn't' as 90% of all support problems came from windows usres screwing up their configs by playing with them.

Unix had this wonderful thing called a super user, and only he or she could mess with it. Users go what they were given. Usually a 80x25 character screen, and their productivity was enormously improved, since ALL it served them was h3wat their bloody job needed.

I remember installing some softwarer in GFl;asgow Lawyers..they had one SCO Unix machine serving 75 dekstops..managed by one half technical lawyer on a apart time bsais.

|The next installation was in a London financial house. The average cost of MAINTAINING a windows desktop in London was £3500 per desktop.

The SUN workstations the traders used cost even more..


Even SunOS' GUI failed to impress me, as I crave eye candy in a visual environment. The only UI I truly admired was in Linux, where you had KDE, Gnome, and Enlightenment as tools for customizing the GUI, and how beautiful the interface was! Still, the functionality of the OS was amazing, as everything responded so quickly, and it was all about stability and functionality. I wondered how the system could achieve this with so much interface overhead, but I never delved into the fine details, and I'm no programmer.


Its not that stable or that fast..its just that modern machines have huge processing capacity.

Mac OS runs a close second, in my mind, to Linux as the most visually beautiful OS around, but I'd like more ways to customize the look and feel without sacrificing performance. Whenever I'd ask about the relative merits of running Linux on a Mac, everyone would respond to me that I really shouldn't go there unless I enjoy programming. So, I've given up on that dream. YDL and Ubuntu will have to sit and gather dust, as apparently I'll never use them.

Now, I'll train myself to trust the system more fully, and tinker with it much less.


There si no point IMHO in putting Linux on a mac. What makes a Mac is MAC OS-X.

The only thing about the hardware apart from a a bit of styling, is that it is a limited subset and therefore possible to achieve stability for the (proprietary-ish) operating system more easily.

PC's come in multiple flavours, and are the ideal place to put Linux.

In MacLand you are trading configurability for user friendliness..the fact that things are the way they are and only that way, means the developers don't have to allow for as many variations..and so it all hangs together well. And there are only a few possibilities to document, so they get documented better.

Ive got win98, Linux MAC OS9 and OS-X running in this room..the Linux is headless and has no GUI installed, and its the rock solidest server there is. Love it.

I hated MAC os9, like windows, if anything went wrong you just 'reinstalled'..no way to get the hood open.

OS-X is a different kettle of monkeys altogether. Its all unix, and the tools are there if you know how to use them

It seems as stable as Linux, and its almost as easy to use as the OS9.

I hate windows. Its utter crap, and always has been. However as far as the software I need to run, I can't ditch it yet.

W8ll either go linux or OSX on the desktop eventually..






Thanks,
Eric


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