Re: sit files - what to use to decompress for free?

In article <michelle-19D39C.17354806092005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> In article <droleary.usenet-2A687E.17411206092005@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > That simply is not true. There is a lot of software that is worth
> > > having for Tiger that is stuffed. Just because it was written
> > > before Tiger does not mean that it doesn't work with Tiger or isn't
> > > worth having for Tiger.
> >
> > Yes, it does. You don't build a business by using software that
> > developers don't bother to at least test with the current OS release.
>
> They have it as a stuffit file; they test it with Tiger, and see no
> reason to change it because it works just the same as with Panther. So
> they don't waste their time changing the compression on all the servers
> where it might reside.

*What* "they"? You can't name one, let alone your quoted "a lot".
Besides, any such testing with Tiger would have failed, since Tiger does
not include StuffIt. So even by your own logic, only a bad company
would distribute a .sit file.

>
> > Maybe you give a little more leeway on personal software, but I sure
> > don't.
>
> Nor do I. I don't judge software by how it's compressed either.

You should. It is a telling benchmark of how a company deals with
users. If their first interaction with you is to have you fishing
around for some other company's decompressor, odds are you'll be getting
the short end of the stick in day-to-day use of the software. I
immediately trash such items the same way I trash "movies" that get put
up in a proprietary Windows-only format.

> Because I'm not going to waste my time searching MacUpdate and/or
> VersionTacker for stuffed files just to have you dispute that they're
> worthwhile.

Waste your time? You said there were lots! You surely must have *one*
lying around that you could point to. If not, you're making an
extraordinary claim without extraordinary proof, or any proof at all for
that matter. You're far from refuting me; no doubt Allume counts on
suckers like you to keep them in business.

> Self referential. Any company I point to that has a stuffed file, you
> say isn't a good company because it has a stuffed file.

Your presumptions are again misguided. No, any company you point to
will merely have me reexamine both my opinion of StuffIt *and* the
company. So, yeah, you forward a half-assed company and I'm going to
call it full ass, but if there is a company that actually has *a good
reason* to distribute .sit files, I sure as hell would like to hear it.

> > Users don't give a damn about packaging. They just want something
> > they can click. A .dmg accomplishes that and has for most, if not
> > all, versions of Mac OS X. A .zip would work, too. No serious
> > company makes their customer hassle with StuffIt if they want me to
> > run their software.
>
> You are not their only customer, nor do you speak for all their other
> customers.

Do *you* presume to speak for all their other customer? All I said, and
I still stand by it, is that the default Tiger install doesn't hand .sit
files and a wise developer would pick a format that is supported out of
the box. I don't need to know *jack* about anyone's customers for that
to be true.

The bigger question in my mind is why people like you are so keen on
defending StuffIt. Unless they're paying you to astroturf, why do you
care?
.

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