Re: MacOS X networking setup

Arild P. <arild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Jon wrote:
>
> > Arild P. <arild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >>So it looks like I've done everything correctly so far, but still can't
> >>get a connection with the PC.
> >
> >
> > Well, we haven't done anything to that yet, have we? and also, we
> > haven't set the IP address on the Mac yet. (You say you do that in the
> > next step). I'm trying to keep to your original agenda here, and not
> > rush ahead of my-/yourself.
>
> I think we might be misunderstanding each other.
> But I must admit that I'm also very confused and frustrated about all of
> this. Networking doesn't seem to be as easy as everybody claims.
>
> Actually I believe *I did* set the IP address on the Mac as I previously
> wrote what I had entered in the TCP/IP tab within the "Network" control
> panel:
>
> Configure IPv4: Manually
> IP address : 10.0.0.1
> Subnet mask : 255.255.255.0
> Router : 10.0.0.10
> DNS servers : (empty)
> Search domains: (empty)
>
> So the Mac should now be located at "10.0.0.1", shouldn't it?
>
>
>
> >>>Both machines need to be on the same logical tcp/ip network.
> >
> >
> > THIS BIT ¨(both above and below) IS IMPORTANT
> >
> >
> >>>On both, enter a manual IP address, e.g., 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2
> >>>respectively, use the same subnet mask, e.g., 255.255.255.0 on both, and
> >>>possibly a (fictious) router address such as 10.0.0.10 (in the same
> >>>network range, anyway). The PC will probably require a reboot for this
> >>>to take effect.
>
> You mean on *both computers?
> Shouldn't both computers have the same IP address?

No. How will they be able to distinguish one fromm the other?

> Or are you saying that the Mac should be set up for 10.0.0.1 while the
> PC should be set up for 10.0.0.2?¨

For example. At least different, while still in the same range.

> I never understood what you meant that I should do on the PC that would
> get it to reboot, but *I think* I might have gotten a bit closer today.

I am not saying it necessarily *will* reboot, but that it will *have to*
reboot for the new address to take effect - that is, if you are running
an old Windows like 98 ME.

> In the "Network" control panel in Windows I highlighted "TCP/IP" (among
> the many things in that list ("Client for Microsoft networks",
> "Microsoft family login", "Realtek ethernet card", "IPX/SPX", "NetBEUI",
> "TCP/IP" and "Sharing of printer and files in Microsoft network").
> If I click on the "Properties" tab I'm presented with a new windows with
> many new tabs (Bindings, advanced, NetBIOS, DNS configuration, Gateway,
> WINS configuration, IP-address).
> I clicked on "IP address" and chose "manual IP address", then entered
> the same IP address as the one on the Mac. After pressing "OK" I was
> asked if the computer should reboot, which I let it do.
> Still, no connection, but I did get an error message of conflicting IP
> addresses or something.

Exactly. And you still didn't see the light? Two units on the same net
*cannot* use the same IP address. That means your PC probably reset to
its former address or to a default self-generated address (typically in
the 169.x.x.x range). Try again, changing only the last digit by 1 - one
- from the address of the Mac.

> Oh, another thing: After having added those new protocols or whatever in
> the (PC) Network control-panel I get a "Username"/"Password" window
> every time after rebooting or switching on the PC. If I press the
> "Cancel" button I'm still able to use the computer -the Windows desktop
> still appears!

Normal Windows. Don't ask me why. ;-)

> But after reading through one of the "how to" websites that another
> poster in this thread had given me I believe I understand that this is
> actually a login window for the *network* and not Windows itself, and I
> shouldn't enter the username for the PC, but for the Mac. Is this correct?

I have no idea. Told you I don't do Windows. Sorry. But it doesn't
_sound_ correct - FWIW.

> Anyway, I did try to enter my username on the Mac as well as the
> password while connected to the Mac via the ethernet cable. Is this part
> correct, or am I misunderstanding?
>
> I have a feeling that I'm looking past some important points, but I
> don't know exactly what I should enter and where on which computer.

Basically, you are not understanding what you are trying to do, and I
was misunderstanding your level of non-understanding. Put together, that
was a bit much.

> >>I've just tried it again with that new IP address:
> >>
> >> \\10.0.0.1\arild
> >>
> >>..... hey!!! something happened!!!
> >>Instead of the usual error message (on the PC) a windows pops up titled
> >>"No access". I assume this is the password on the Mac used to log into
> >>my account, which I now enter, but it isn't accepted.
> >>Right after I enter my password and press "OK" the very same window
> >>comes up again. I'm sure I have the correct password.
> >
> >
> > Now at least you are being connected. Good.
>
> The strange thing is that I've done the same thing again, but now it
> doesn't work!

Maybe because of the identical addresses? See above.

> > This would have happened
> > long ago if you had taken the time to read the instructionns through
> > before you started. Being Scandinavian you have probably put together
> > IKEA furniture at some time; this is the same. You need to read it all
> > through once before starting.
>
> Yes, but if the instructions are written in Chinese it's a little hard
> to figure out, even if it's basically "easy" ;-)
> In this case, "Chinese" is "tech-speak" as the terms and concept is very
> new and unfamiliar to me.
> But I'm not giving up just yet ;-)

Good. Keep slugging. I have basically told you all I know, so I think
you'll just have to go over the stuff again - carefully and step by
step.

First the network settings, then the "Sharing" settings, and things
should work out in the end.

Oh, and - no offence intended!! - pick up a book like "TCP/IP for
Dummies" or something similar and check out some relevant sections. I
read that one once; it was great as an intro to tcp/ip networking.
--
/Jon
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