Re: Best Antivirus

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:15:25 -0500, Erik Richard Sørensen wrote
(in article <492ac6e4$0$11589$ba624c82@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>):


J.J. O'Shea wrote:
Erik Richard Sørensen wrote:
Mike Rosenberg wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The several high tech corporations here in the U.S. that have employed
me each supplied Mac antivirus software. I never installed and ran it,
mind you, because it's utter crap, and I've got better things to do than
run useless software. : )
Actually, it's worse than crap, since it causes annoyances. Crap that
sits there doing nothing doesn't bother me, stuff that causes annoyances
does.
And don't blaim me or any other antivirus users the day you're causing a
complete breakdown somewhere, because of your stupidity not protecting
your computer with an antivirus app. You do hopefully know that you can
forward some of those those nasty PC vira, - or are you that unknowing too?

Any Windows machine which does not have adequate antimalware protection is
a
disaster waiting to happen... but, unless that machine is on a network I'm
responsible for, not my problem. And all WIndows machines on networks I'm
responsible for have adequate protection.

I decline to do extra work and spend extra money to protect someone else's
network. Let them protect their networks... or not. Either way, it's not my
problem.

My opinion is that is is anyone's responsibility...

My opinion is that it's not.


This early Spring three rather large hospitals here were broke by a
virus so nothing worked, - no medical care could be handled, no
surgerys, NOTHING!

That was a very bad setup up. Not my problem, though... except that the IT
staff at those hospitals should be fired, and perhaps my people could get
their jobs. Where was this, exactly? I'm aware of a problem in three major
English hospitals this week (El Reg covered it extensively) but this
doesn't
seem to be the problem you're referring to, as there was nowhere near the
problems you describe, and it was fixed... quickly. (An infection with the
Mytob worm, apparently.) More info is available here
<http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2008/11/18/london-hospitals-hit-by-compute
r-
virus> and here
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/18/london_hospital_malware_shutdown/>.

This happened in an area, we call the 'Three-Corner-Area' - three cities
called Vejle, Kolding, fredericia in the southeast of Jutland. - The IT
staff wasn't fired, since they used at the time an external company to
admin it all - except the stuff on the heart surgery sections that all
are running as individual networks.... - But as I answered Mike, the
mess cost the company some millions to fix...

Cite, please?


- One of these vira was passed on by a Mac that had
gotten one of those inlayed macro virus that forwards itself...

Interesting. Where did you get that piece of information? And why was the
system admin staff not prosecuted for their gross negligence in allowing
whatever it was to do all the damage you say was done?

Heard it in the local radio and TV stations. And from what the
responsible company said, it could seem as if it was a coordinated
attack. The 'server' that had sent the malware was located in Russia and
Hong-Kong, so it probably will be hard to take legal steps against these
two servers...

cool. So you can provide a cite leading to the website of the local radio and
TV people. What was the date when this alleged attack occurred?


Luckily
noone on the hospitals died because of any kind of put off surgery!

I'm sure.

But of course those nasties can't harm a Mac!

And, frankly, are none of our concern.

My opinion is that such things also are our responsibilities, and if the
new EU directive gets voted home, it will be a legal claim that _any_
computer connecting to a network MUST have antivirus/malware protection.

Thank God that I'm not in Europe and have not set foot there since 1977, nor
do I plan on going back.


Cheers, Erik Richard





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