Re: How do I run an ??????????????????

Tom Stiller wrote:
In article <47966f1a$0$90270$14726298@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
AV3 <arvimide@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Fred Moore wrote:


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If you haven't altered your PATH variable, you should be able to omit '/sbin/' from Davoud's command list if you want to save a few keystrokes.

Actually, I tried that, it failed, then I googled and found "/sbin/fsck -fy", tried that and it failed, etc.

How did it fail? Was there an error message?


It was the same error message in all cases: command not recognized. If you want the precise wording, I will try to run the script command mentioned in "Lewis"'s message to get it.



Also consider installing the comand line utility applejack. It will run fsck for you as well as provide easy access to several other utilities and functions.


I will try that.

In the interest of full disclosure, I am doing this because my hard disk, which contains three OS's (OSX, Vista, and Ubuntu), displayed "Invalid node structure" after I tried to repair the disk with Disk Utility; DiskWarrior also failed to repair it but without a specified reason. I took the computer to a nearby Apple store and the "genius" recommended replacing the hard disk as it had already proved unrepairable by Disk Utility and DiskWarrior. When I took it back backed up and ready for a week's absence, a second "genius" suggested a clean install (erasing the entire disk and reinstalling each OS clean), having noted that there was some indication of a healthy disk without the non-Apple OS's. He said a preliminary run of "fsck -y" (sic!) might repair the disk. That done, followed by the above googling and further file checks, I arrive at this point. Is it possible that the damaged "node structure" is preventing the various "fsck"'s from running? In that case, will applejack help?

Again, what is the nature of the fsck failure? If it's running at all, leave off the "-y", which assumes a "yes" answer to all questions posed by fsck.



As above, command not recognized in all cases. I tried the full array of suggested fsck-commands including "fsck -y", but "/sbin/fsck -fy" seems to be the last word on the subject. Would "fsck -f" be worth trying?


Applejack is only script providing a handy interface to existing unix commands. If fsck won't run standalone, it won't fare any better when invoked by applejack.


That's why I asked. It doesn't seem worth the trouble.


Also in the interest of full disclosure, I installed rEFIt on the instruction of the Ubuntu for Mac install site. I realize now that it is unnecessary, as booting up with the "option" key depressed serves the same purpose, and I dislike burdening my computer with unnecessary software, especially at such a prominent point in booting up.

So the foreign OSs are in separate partitions? Are you trying to repair a non-HFS partition with DiskWarrior? Could you supply a little more information about your disk configuration?



No, just the OSX partition. Disk Utility wouldn't repair the other partitions, and DiskWarrior doesn't recognize them. Nor does the Apple Store Genius bar, but I didn't expect help on that front.


Vista and Ubuntu format their own partitions, so I doubt that one or the other or both are really causing the node structure defect in the MacOSX partition, but I am quite unlearned on that topic.


For whatever reason or relationship to other partitions, the node structure defect shows up in running Disk Utility on my Macintosh HD partition. That is why my one reliable option is to completely zero out the whole hard disk and then clean install everything one partition at a time and very carefully, damn it.


Maybe I should uninstall rEFIt, if only I knew how to uninstall it completely. I am grasping at straws trying to avoid the inconvenient hours and hours clean installs will cost me.



This is the one program I installed that affects all three partitions and also recognizes the System Folder of my MacOSX backup on an attached storage disk. But it is unnecessary, given that I know how to use my "option" key at boot up. I suspect the Ubuntu-for-Mac team ignored the Mac "option" boot up.



Also, my computer runs smoothly in all three OS's, so I feel no urgency.



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