Re: What, exactly, is Apple's iPod business model?

In article <1188792527.150278.76780@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
spinoza1111 <spinoza1111@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 3, 2:04 am, Tim Streater <timstrea...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <13dlhgvnek8k...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Jeffrey Goldberg <nob...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 9/1/07 9:15 PM,spinoza1111wrote:

Yes. What I was trying to express, hyperbolically, was that the set of
watchable films has very small cardinality [...]

This is because film is a social art and usually arrives at lowest
common denominator.

I've always been startled by how the self-appointed representatives of
the common man have so much contempt for the people they claim to be
acting in the interests of.

This never startles me, I'm afraid, Jeff, because like Mr Spinoza they
are all fascists.

"All" fascists? Never said that. I was talking about fascism, not
fascists. But hey, if the shoe fits...

No, *you* didn't, but I am saying, in response to Jeff, that all
"self-appointed representatives of the common man", such as yourself,
are fascists. Do try and keep up.

Significant numbers of films use Fascism to excite the dull
sensitivies of the audience: cf. the Godfather, and see "Fascinating
Fascism" by Susan Sontag.

[Yup. Your not having read anything or been anywhere makes you less
qualified to speak.

And you know how much dorayme has read or travelled? And just because
we don't read what you read makes us less qualified to speak?

More shooting from the hip from Mr S. He also assumed I hadn't travelled
either, and shot his mouth off in much the same way.

Perhaps you traveled like Jacques in As You Like It, and learned
nothing?

Ah, a witticism.

What keeps me reading your posts is your ability to reach ever new
heights of arrogance and self-importance.

It's all about him, isn't it. He doesn't debate or discuss - he

You clowns have made this thread into a Celebration of Spinoza1111,
because you've almost exclusively focused on me. I'm afraid I've
encouraged it because like you I find Me a fascinating topic, and a
helluva guy. However, I WANTED to see an honest discussion from the
trenches of how hardware and software is developed to build in planned
obsolescence.

Too bad you didn't indicate that right from the start then. Not that I
know how to do that, I've never been taught it or seen it done or even
discussed as a matter of policy. You're seeing too many conspiracies
where most things are simply fuckups.

declaims. He harangues the masses and then treats them with contempt.

No, I treat dorayme and Oate Boy with contempt. I have treated old
Jeff G with the respect he has earned.

Marginally.

This is the case whether the listeners are "workers" or the audience at
the Oxford Union Debating Society.

Doubtless anyone unfortunate enough to have him as a teacher would
suffer in a similar fashion. No attempt to discern the abilities of the
audience and tune the discourse to that.

Well, there is falsity and truth in that. The falsity is that I am
very empathetic and sensitive as a teacher. The truth is that a
"teacher" is almost by definition somebunny who knows more than you
and is gonna talk above your head so that you strain to rise and
thereby rise above the level of the ape.

The sign of a good teacher is that they know more than you, and that
they are able to impart that knowledge *without* talking above the head
of the audience.

It would be an easy job to be an American style "teacher" in some sort
of New Age skewl who would never tell her students what is real and
what is not, and who merely gave them "learning materials" including
cool toys and let them "learn by themselves". I mean...nice work if
you can get it, you could pop outside for a smoke.

Unfortunately true - but that's new-age trendy-lefty theory for you.

I was looking for people to talk honestly about how their jobs as
technologists destroys their spirit by forcing them to build in
planned obsolescence, but so many here have signed "nondisclosure"
agreements that they're afraid to talk about their jobs and would
rather tear into a "mark" like little mean girls.

There's your conspiracy approach again.
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