Re: Anyone using Hogwasher; need advice

On 2007-06-13 15:41:02 -0500, Sharon Fink <sharonfDELETE@xxxxxxxxxxxx> said:

: Two personal hurdles with Unison so far. They're pretty basic for newsreaders ...perhaps you could pass this on to the developer?

1) Can't mark a post unread so that I can come back to it later. Chasing two toddlers around during the day and sometimes I need to return to a thread. Other people may have reasons to want to do the same. Or maybe the Unison actuality is that I need to divorce myself from read/unread mentality and find a different method to accomplish this. It would be nice to have a choice though.

I'm not sure why you think you can't do this. If you select a message that is already marked read, the Message > Mark as Unread menu item in the menu bar should become available. Another way to get to the same command is right-click the message in question and select Mark as Unread from the contextual menu.

Note: If you have read messages hidden you'll have to select View > Show Read Messages to see messages that are already marked read.

2) Can't mark a thread as read without downloading the first message. I think I saw this discussed here already so will leave it at that.

I'm not sure what you are saying here either. If you right-click the first message in the thread and select Mark Thread as Read, Unison marks the entire thread as read. Since that message is now selected, Unison displays the message body in the preview pane. How would you like to see this behavior change?

2a) User configurable shortcuts would be nice: opt+cmd+M is too many keys. Cmd M is reserved for Minimize in this app.

Personally, I think I'd like to see them use shortcuts more like Entourage and Mail. Entourage uses these:

Command Shortcut
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Mark As Read Command-T
Mark As Unread Command-Shift-T
Mark All As Read Command-Option-T
Get More Posts Command-K
View > Unread Only Command-Shift-O

While I'm on this one, Cmd+R would be handier for Reply, with opt+Cmd+R the less used "reply all."

I wonder - is it good etiquette to reply to all, or is it better to reply just to the group you are currently reading?

Normally I would accept existing shortcuts "as is" but since the app is so young, maybe they would like to rethink the logic behind the current shortcuts and their ease of use (or lack of)? Or maybe not. It is their app after all :)

Definitely. I think Panic is open to any and all suggestions. They will, of course, have to make up their own minds whether or not to implement suggested features. i can tell you, so far, they have been very much willing to implement improvements I've suggested.

Suggestion: One feature that I've seen in only one other newsreader and that I loved: Being able to supress quoted material on the "read" screen. It makes for easier reading - especially in long threads. If I got lost mid-thread and needed to refresh my memory, the quoted text was restored in the message screen by clicking a button.

Google Groups does this too, but it's not very reliable, due to the way plain text gets mangled in posts from time to time.

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JR

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