Re: G3 web server
- From: JH <jjhoban@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:03:48 GMT
Wow, Thank you !
I printed that out for reference. Thanks very much. - John
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 02:08:54 +1200, dempson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (David
Empson) wrote:
JH <jjhoban@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:.
I have a G3 with OS X and am planning to use it with my DSL connection
and a NO-IP static address to host my personal sites. About 7 or 8
different domains sites. The DSL is off a router in my bedroom. Do I
need NO-IP? Does my IP change?
That would depend on your ISP. I don't know how they typically work in
the USA, but in New Zealand it is most common for ISPs to issue dynamic
IP addresses which don't change very often, but they can do whenever
your router restarts. This would mean you need a service like NO-IP or
DynDNS to host a public web site.
Can the hardware and OS do it?
Reading between the lines, it looks like your computer is a "Blue &
White" G3 model, but you didn't mention the CPU speed. This computer is
quite capable of acting as a web server, and Mac OS X includes most of
the software you need (the rest can be installed and is free).
Unless you are running web sites which have a very small number of
users, you will run into performance issues. The main ones are:
1. Your DSL connection probably has a limited speed compared to
dedicated web server farms. This will result in slower performance for
people accessing your web sites. If you have ADSL then your "upload"
speed is seriously limited: the original ADSL standard can't achieve
upload speeds higher than about 800 kbps. ADSL2+ can go faster (if you
are close enough to the exchange), and SDSL has different speed
configurations which might allow even faster uploads, but probably only
in the order of 2 megabits per second. A server farm is likely to be
orders of magnitude faster. This will be very significant if your sites
are popular and have lots of hits.
2. If your web sites involve any intensive server-side processing (e.g.
PHP) or are very popular (lots of hits) then the server CPU performance
becomes an important factor. A PowerMac G3 is getting a bit long in the
tooth if you want to do anything fancy. Highly popular web sites are
usually hosted on a multi-computer server farm, not a single computer,
so the load can be spread around.
3. Hard drive performance can also be important if you are hosting a lot
of data and/or multiple web sites which are frequently accessed. You
might want to replace the internal hard drive with a faster and larger
one, but if the Firewire drive is fast enough then it might be
sufficient.
4. Having plenty of RAM would be a good idea, to allow as much caching
as possible and to avoid needing to rely on virtual memory.
Any other ideas? My Go-Daddy hosting fee is near $400 a year, besides
the challenge might be fun, but if it's impossible or impractical, I'd
like to know now
It will work, but will be a lot slower than your current setup. There is
a reason that Go-Daddy is charging you that much money.
It is worth trying as an experiment, but I wouldn't recommend it for a
serious web server.
It didn't have a keyboard or mouse. Should I get usb stuff or ADB
ADB is new to me. Really, Macs are new to me. They've changed a lot
since I had one.
Assuming you actually do have a Blue & White G3, then it has both ADB
and USB connectors. It was the last desktop model to include ADB, and
only to allow people with older peripherals to keep using them. You
should go with USB, which is the current standard.
This G3 has 224 MB ram and 20 gig HD
I have a firewire ext HD for more storage, but I'm not clear on what
RAM to buy to Upgrade,
The Blue & White G3 uses PC100 RAM: 3.3V, unbuffered, 8 byte,
non-parity, 168-pin SDRAM DIMMs. PC133 will also work (but won't be any
faster).
The maximum RAM capacity is 1 GB, using four 256 MB SDRAM DIMMs.
Given that you currently have 224 MB, it is probably a combination like
64 + 64 + 64 + 32 (or 128 + 64 + 32 + empty).
224 MB is enough to run Mac OS X, but not comfortably. At a minimum, I'd
recommend replacing the 32 MB DIMM with a 256 MB one, but if you can
afford more than putting at least two 256 MB DIMMs in there would be a
good idea (and will take you up to at least 640 MB).
If you are thinking about upgrading the internal hard drive, you need an
ATA hard drive (parallel ATA, not serial ATA) and the maximum capacity
supported by the internal drive controller is about 120 GB (unless you
add a PCI card which supports larger drives). External (Firewire) drives
can be larger as long as the enclosure is new enough.
Don't try to use a USB enclosure for an external drive - it will be
horribly slow.
Also When I worked at a ComputerLand back in 84 I bought the Mac on
it's release. The inside of the case has the signitures of the design team
embossed or whatever you call it.
Anyone know the cash value today? Thanks. John
There are still quite a few of them out there, and I doubt yours has any
particularly unique characteristics, other than a low serial number. It
might be worth something to a collector, but otherwise it isn't much
more than a curiosity item. Have a look on eBay for past sales of 128K
Macs to get an idea.
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