Re: will Apple ever do a lower-cost, non-imac desktop?

In article <hanq1a$r4p$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, John Slade <hhitman86@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Wayne Stuart wrote:
Trevor Smithson <trevor_smithson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'd like to see a model without an integrated display slotted well
below the mac pro. Take out the most advanced features so that
designers/videographers/professionals/etc keep buying pros, keep most
of the build & design quality, and give it maybe a 50%-to-100% price
premium over a basic $400 windows desktop. That'd be a lot easier to
handle than a $2500 pro.

One can dream.

That's a question many have been asking for quite some time. I've asked
the same question myself; when is Apple going to fill the 'headless
iMac' niche?

I mean, we're not asking for a cheap n' nasty generic beige box with an
Apple logo on it here.

You should say low cost, not cheap. Low cost doesn't have
to be nasty either. I've been looking inside some of the new HP
and Dell desktops and they are very well made with top quality
components. They have the same quality of components that Apple
has or better.


Just something to give the potential iMac/Mini
buyer a welcome choice of having a sub-Mac Pro spec desktop Mac, but
with the added option to choose your own monitor and easily user-replace
some of the basic internal components, i.e. RAM, hot swap HDs, graphics
card. It seems like a niche worth filling...

I've been saying this all the time in here and I get
called every name in the book even for suggesting that Apple do
that. They're gonna say stupid shit like, "Duuuuuh! Most people
don't upgrade so Apple shouldn't provide that choice on their
consumer models." Let me tell you this, Apple passed up a golden
opportunity when Dell wanted to buy OS X copies and install them
on Dell computers. That's how Microsoft got to be so huge. Apple
could have had the biggest PC maker at the time, basically
selling OS X boxes. They could have kept selling the Macs they
make because the hard core Maccies would never by a Mac from
Dell. But they passed on that.

When Microsoft came on the scene, selling MS-DOS to IBM before they even owned it, the landscape was
vastly different. Then, when IBM failed to protect it's designs(as Apple did) and the clones sprang
up overnight, there was no where to go but Microsoft. That's how Microsoft got huge, and then huger
later as they squashed and stole other technologies from other companies, like Go(Ms mouse) and
Novell(DR,DOS).

Too bad you don't know much of marketing john...and microsoft history.



But instead, they seem fixated on making thin things, and filling niches
that no-one's asking to be filled. Like the Macbook Air. I mean,
seriously, how many people have you heard say they'd like a Macbook, but
decided against it because it was too fat? Yet still Jobs and co
decided that niche was bigger than the 'headless iMac' niche? Hmmmm...


I said the same thing. Who wants a laptop with no DVD
burner? All it has is a USB port. LOL. But hey, it's thin! I
wonder how the Macbook Air is selling and if the R&D cost that
went into coming up with the thin thing is being made back in
sales. The feeling I get is that Steve Jobs is a massive control
freak and has a massive ego. He doesn't want to be told he's
wrong about something. Meanwhile, Mac users are getting the
short end of the stick while paying for the long end in spades.

John

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Jim
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