Re: Snow Leopard 64-bit Rumor Mongering!

"Snit" <usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:C6AF2FB5.41E4D%usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dan Johnson stated in post p-KdnaYnVKX8VhTXnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on
8/17/09 2:28 PM:
"It didn't take off like Windows 95" is not a serious criticism. You are
setting the bar for success absurdly high, but I suppose you have to to get
the result you want.

It is a measure of Vista's quality, and it's success, that its detractors have
to go to such extremes.

I did not compare it to Win 95.

Yeah, that was me. But what *is* your benchmark? What version of Windows has been a success, in your view?

[snip]
It's not clear what MS could have done that *would* have been better, except
release their next major OS revision earlier. A modest incremental upgrade
after 5 years would have gone down really poorly, don't you think?

But this opens the obvious question: would it have been better for MS to skip
their big security push? As far as I can see, that is the big thing that they
could have done differently.

They could have worked the market better so that computers that came with
Vista actually worked with it.

It did, of course.

They could have lacked having so many
different "flavors" of the product.

This would not have helped at all.

They could have designed it to work
well on the then-current hardware.

It did. It had trouble with the old stuff, not the new stuff.

Maybe it could have worked better on netbooks; but this would have required further delay. Would that be better?

They could have made UAC not be so annoying and, well, useless. Etc.

It's been remarkably effective. But they could only make it less annoying by making it less effective- as they are doing in Windows 7. Even that wouldn't have helped much, as long as it still existed: the big problem with UAC was that it was incompatible with existing software.

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If you think this, they got you with their name change. It's very like Vista.
It's a little better, but not 'much better'.

That said, it's a great OS. But it is so largely because Vista is.

UAC is done better...

They turned it down a bit. It's bypassable now, by default. Like OS X.

I can see why they'd do that - the UAC whining was just deafening - but I don't approve of security theater.

Of course, you can turn it back up to full, so it still beats OS X for users who know what they are doing.

it's cold comfort for a wintroll, though.

hardware is better now... drivers are more ready...

It's slightly smaller, and it has the same drivers as Vista.

the UI is better (or so it seems, I have not used it)...

It's pretty much the same. Some tweaks here and there. They've "Aero-ized" the control panel more, that sort of thing.

... still too many versions.

:D

The task bar has been cleaned up (to be much more OS X like, really),

It's not an improvement over the old taskbar, IMHO, but it's still better than
the actual OS X dock. :P

It is much like the OS X dock. Not exact, of course... but much more like
it than any past Windows.

Yes, that's true. Too bad about that.

Window management / resizing has been improved (in some ways sort of like
Exposé, but also with the half-window resizing on drag and the like... OS X
*still* lacks a real maximize for most programs!).

As far as I can see, the improvements do not resemble Expose at all.

Getting mini-windows of all windows in an app, etc.

It doesn't do that. It shows 'insides' of windows, not whole windows. So with IE, you get to see each tab. That's actually nice; it's just that for most apps it's no better than showing windows, and the hover-and-point thing adds overhead.

But the alt-tab preview thing is more like Expose than it is.

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I still think the extra wide / transparent window edges are rather hideous,
but so be it. Do you know if MS has toned down the transparency there?

Nope, it's exactly like Vista as far as I can see. And "Aero Peek" makes
everything go transparent, not just the edges. :D

But it does it for a reason.

Oh sure, psychoanalyze it why don't you! :D


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