Re: The "Restart" Apple menu option

Steve de Mena wrote:
Steve Carroll wrote:

Sure, if I exit all the running apps and wait and then
do "Restart" the system restarts. But if I have apps loaded it never
restarts.


Why do you want to perform a restart when apps are *running*?

Because I assume it is like Windows, in that when you issue a restart each App is *requested to exit*. It doesn't just kill the task/app. In other words it does the equivalent of going to each open app and quitting.

If it's
your data you wish to jeopardize you can always hold down the power
button for a bit and hit it again once the machine shuts down. This is
the fastest and easiest way to perform a "restart" that I know of...
if you don't care about losing your data, that is. I suppose you can
pull the plug, replug it and hit the power button again. Why don't you
time these and let us know...

After 15-20 seconds it tells me that Application "x" has
stopped (aborted) the restart.

It assumes (rightfully, IMO) you have forgotten you had apps running
and also assumes you don't want to lose your unsaved data. What a
concept, eh?

But that is not the scenario of the state the apps are in. What is happening in Mail that can't be exited? Nada. Nothing. iTunes? Nada. Nothing. Safari? I have it configured so it quits without prompting when I choose the Quit option (The "Confirm before closing multiple tabs or Windows are open" is unchecked.)

This is not the case of my having Word open and my future great American Novel document open and unsaved after 10 hours of work.


I have to then manually exit out of
Application "x" and do the restart again,

It's a feature to prevent users from losing their data. Sort of a
handy thing to have around.

Yeah, if that were my scenario. Did I ever say I had to go to each app and SAVE DATA and then exit? No, it is just apps that can be quit with no prompts.


and hope that it actually
goes through and that another app won't stop the restart.

Is there a way to make Restart wait longer before restarting, or to
configure it so after "x" seconds of waiting it just forcibly closes
the apps and restarts?

I'm curious... why the pressing need for a 'speed restart' that
jeopardizes unsaved data? There are options for closing apps:

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/automator/closeallopenapplications.html


Just want to run "Restart" and have it do that.

Steve

I only use Windows when I need to connect to a crappy billing web page that only uses IE (no, Safari can't do it). While there, I run a few apps (thunderbird, Filemaker Pro, C4D, iTunes etc.) When I hit shut down or restart, all apps quit immediately and the virtual machine shuts down.
Furthermore, Control-Alt-Delete seems to work no matter how many applications have "frozen", Explorer included. On the Mac, when you get that fnording beach ball, S-O-C escape or any KB combination will not bring up the force quit window.

I personally detest Winders, but this is an area where more work has been done and it shows. Besides, I hate the "Are you sure you want to <insert whatever here>" popups and I wish I could disable them. I don't like the computer asking me if I'm sure, I was sure when I started the action.

Another thing that annoys me, is Mac users not willing to admit that the MacOS has flaws, because it does, even though the flaws in Winders far outweigh any flaws on the Mac.
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