Re: Apple Lags Behind On DVD-R/RWs?

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If there is any more proof that Apple is lagging behind on it's novelty machines, just look at the Mini and the iMac. All models have 8x DVD-R/RW drives. Why don't they have 16x, 18x or even 20x DVD-R/RWs on their mainstream computers. Dell and HP have computers that are cheaper that come with faster drives. I'll tell you the reason, when you make a proprietary novelty machine, it's hard to upgrade to the next drive. Right now I can put a Blue-Ray player on a Dell or HP computer, do that with Apple's mainstream computers. To get a Blue-Ray player inside a Mini or iMac, you have to wait until Apple designs a new one, if they don't plan to drop the turkey that is. Your only choice is to buy a USB drive and that means more desk clutter which negates the main selling point of the Mini and iMac. The only Mac that has a newer DVD-R/RW is the Mac Pro and who is dumb enough to buy a $2500 machine just to get a better optical drive? For those who don't know, the reason the Mac Pro has a drive is because it has a big case where you can install an off the shelf drive in it easily.
Guffaw! Because the vendors can't put a reliable RW dvd out at those higher speeds, that's why.
That's why most people use DVD-Rs not DVD-RWs. The "R" means "recordable" not ROM in this case.

You missed the point on this one.
When you insert a blank DVD into an Apple dvd drive and using the disk utility tool,
and have something to record, the tool makes a suggestion of a lower speed for a
successful burn. Then it verifys the burn. Going faster may make a coaster or on
a rewrittable dvd a redo. So is speed such a big deal?
You know what? When I put a blank DVD-R in, a menu pops up asking me what program I want to use with the disk. I can choose to burn a data disk or whatever from any number of programs. I choose Nero and drag and drop the files I want copied. Then when I hit burn, it allows me to burn at maximum speed or I can drop down that menu to pick a slower speed. I ALWAYS use maximum with my Verbatim media. I burnt at 16x every time. Out of about 220 DVDs burned, I have had maybe three coasters and they were ALL due to a corrupted file. I think if you're worried about the Mac's DVD drive burning a coaster, if you go faster then 8x, then it shows you have little faith in Apple hardware. I can understand this because you've been using Macs for a while. I don't worry about faster speeds. I verify every disk through a separate program because I just like it better, I could use verify with Nero as I burn also. However I find that all those disk are burned just fine. So you saying that burning at faster speeds is pure horse ***, well unless you go and buy the cheap ass junk media they sell to people who don't know. Hey maybe Apple could start making blank DVDs to their "high standards", stamp a big read Apple with a bite taken out of it and sell them for $5 bucks a piece. The Mac Kook Zealots would buy that *** without question and claim it's better than the media PC users use. Well that is until they find out it's rebranded Taiyo Yuden or Mitsubishi Chemicals DVDs.

LOL That's a good one. "You don't want faster speeds because you might get errors." Yea right, then why the *** does Apple put a 16x DVD writer on it's Mac Pro?
I've got the same thing, but the disk utility selects the suggeted burn speed for the best
reliability. Just like speed limit signs on highways. Sure, you've got your corvette and
got at great high speeds, but run the risk of crash and burn.


But when you're talking about DVD writers, that does not apply. You can safely burn at higher speeds.

But of course you'd rather blow away a perfectly good dvd on a risk, right?
Guffaw!!!

Ummm. No. I would rather buy QUALITY MEDIA than the $20 for 100 DVD-Rs from CMC that may or may not be total crap. It's a crap shoot when you buy ***. How do you know it's the speed of the writer every time you get a coaster and not the shitty media?

I don't know... I've never burnt a coaster yet on this iMac.
I follow the suggested speed.

I regularly burn at 16x. It takes between five and seven minutes to write a full DVD. Out of about 220 I've had three coasters and the reason was a corrupted image file. Your argument doesn't hold much water.


I don't need to hold water, I let go of it from time to time.
And yet you did get some coasters... gee, I wonder why?

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"It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument."
William G. McAdoo.
American Government official (1863-1941).
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