Re: Apple Lags Behind On DVD-R/RWs?


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John Slade wrote:
If there is any more proof that Apple is lagging behind on it's
novelty machines, just look at the Mini and the iMac. All models have
8x DVD-R/RW drives. Why don't they have 16x, 18x or even 20x
DVD-R/RWs on their mainstream computers. Dell and HP have computers
that are cheaper that come with faster drives. I'll tell you the
reason, when you make a proprietary novelty machine, it's hard to
upgrade to the next drive. Right now I can put a Blue-Ray player on a
Dell or HP computer, do that with Apple's mainstream computers. To
get a Blue-Ray player inside a Mini or iMac, you have to wait until
Apple designs a new one, if they don't plan to drop the turkey that
is. Your only choice is to buy a USB drive and that means more desk
clutter which negates the main selling point of the Mini and iMac.
The only Mac that has a newer DVD-R/RW is the Mac Pro and who is dumb
enough to buy a $2500 machine just to get a better optical drive? For
those who don't know, the reason the Mac Pro has a drive is because
it has a big case where you can install an off the shelf drive in it
easily.
Guffaw! Because the vendors can't put a reliable RW dvd out at those
higher speeds, that's why.
That's why most people use DVD-Rs not DVD-RWs. The "R" means
"recordable" not ROM in this case.

You missed the point on this one.
When you insert a blank DVD into an Apple dvd drive and using the disk
utility tool,
and have something to record, the tool makes a suggestion of a lower
speed for a
successful burn. Then it verifys the burn. Going faster may make a
coaster or on
a rewrittable dvd a redo. So is speed such a big deal?

You know what? When I put a blank DVD-R in, a menu pops up asking me
what program I want to use with the disk. I can choose to burn a data
disk or whatever from any number of programs. I choose Nero and drag and
drop the files I want copied. Then when I hit burn, it allows me to burn
at maximum speed or I can drop down that menu to pick a slower speed. I
ALWAYS use maximum with my Verbatim media. I burnt at 16x every time. Out
of about 220 DVDs burned, I have had maybe three coasters and they were
ALL due to a corrupted file. I think if you're worried about the Mac's
DVD drive burning a coaster, if you go faster then 8x, then it shows you
have little faith in Apple hardware. I can understand this because you've
been using Macs for a while. I don't worry about faster speeds. I verify
every disk through a separate program because I just like it better, I
could use verify with Nero as I burn also. However I find that all those
disk are burned just fine. So you saying that burning at faster speeds is
pure horse ***, well unless you go and buy the cheap ass junk media they
sell to people who don't know. Hey maybe Apple could start making blank
DVDs to their "high standards", stamp a big read Apple with a bite taken
out of it and sell them for $5 bucks a piece. The Mac Kook Zealots would
buy that *** without question and claim it's better than the media PC
users use. Well that is until they find out it's rebranded Taiyo Yuden or
Mitsubishi Chemicals DVDs.

LOL That's a good one. "You don't want faster speeds because you
might get errors." Yea right, then why the *** does Apple put a 16x DVD
writer on it's Mac Pro?

I've got the same thing, but the disk utility selects the suggeted burn
speed for the best
reliability. Just like speed limit signs on highways. Sure, you've got
your corvette and
got at great high speeds, but run the risk of crash and burn.


But when you're talking about DVD writers, that does not apply. You can
safely burn at higher speeds.

But of course you'd rather blow away a perfectly good dvd on a risk,
right?
Guffaw!!!

Ummm. No. I would rather buy QUALITY MEDIA than the $20 for 100 DVD-Rs
from CMC that may or may not be total crap. It's a crap shoot when you buy
***. How do you know it's the speed of the writer every time you get a
coaster and not the shitty media? I regularly burn at 16x. It takes between
five and seven minutes to write a full DVD. Out of about 220 I've had three
coasters and the reason was a corrupted image file. Your argument doesn't
hold much water.

John


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