Re: Leopard market share???

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GreyCloud <cumulus@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
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GreyCloud <cumulus@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
In article <09qdnV0rE4DwN_LUnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
GreyCloud <cumulus@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
In article <oJydnc9ioIOk-vLUnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
GreyCloud <cumulus@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Steve de Mena wrote:
GreyCloud wrote:
Steve de Mena wrote:
GreyCloud wrote:

And again... I can connect to my other account from this Mac to
another Mac.
And both have different processors and the other is an older
version of OS X.
And never have I ever had a spinning beachball for this either.
Maybe it is because you don't have yours set up correctly.
It is setup correctly.

Better yet, describe your network for these macs.
That might help pin down the problem.
Linksys 16-port Gigabit Switch, Airport Extreme (set to 802.11n
only), MacBook Pro C2Duo connecting wirelessly, Mac Pro directly
connected to switch. Airport Extreme connected to switch and to
cable modem. MBP 192.168.1.238 (via DHCP), MacPro static IP
192.168.1.90. I can go to Finder on the MBP, click on the Mac
Pro
and the "waiting" indicator can spin and spin indefinitely. Or it
works right away. If it is spinning indefinitely I can click on
something else, and then back to the Mac Pro, and it connects.
AppleTalk also active on both, Configured "automatically".
Ethernet
configured automatically (If the MP is set to a large MTU it can no
longer administer the Airport Extreme!)

Ok, now I see the correct picture here.
Did you ever check to see if the Linksys has an update?
I'm not so sure that having the Air Port connected to both the
Linksys
and the cable
modem is a good idea or not. Seems to me that a conflict could
arise
there.
And it is also possible that the Airport or Apple didn't forsee
having
it connected this way.
Only a guess on my part on that. I've never used Apple Talk
protocol.
The large MTU would
need a question pushed onto Apple for their Airport to see what
gives.
But overall, it looks like
a conflict issue and nothing to do with the computers.
There is nothing here to indicate a "conflict" issue. I have been
working with networking for over 15 years.
Yes there is a probable conflict. Between the Airport and your
router.
I've been into networking since the early 80s.
GreyCloud, he doesn't have another router. He has a switch.

The term router seems to be a marketing term rather than a technical one
and
seems to be falling by the wayside. It all depends on whether his box
is a layer-3
or a layer-2 type box accoding to the OSI standards. If he has an
uplink port so that he can
connect more devices, then it is more likely a layer-3 type switch or
router box.
On my linksys box it is listed as a router and sometimes as a switch.
No. A router is a device that is quite distinct from a switch or hub in
that -- no surprise...

...it routes packets.

Erm... so will a switch.

Erm... ...no.

A switch will figure out where a particular MAC address is found on it
ports and then only deliver packets intended for that address on that
port. With switches, there can only be a single path to each device.

Routing is a higher level protocol that allows for multiple paths to the
recipients.


I understand those terms and I'm well aware of them.
For what steve has his switch will do limited routing on his Lan.

No, it won't.

Saying that a switch won't route ... well, it does in limited terms.

No, it doesn't. Switching isn't routing in the context of computer
networks.

Hubs on the otherhand can lose packets.

How would that be?

The Airport extreme he is using, could be his problem and may not.
It could also be malfunctioning. The only way for him to find out is to
replace the Airport box
But as I've said before, mixing up vendors in a networking environment
can cause problems.
I've seen too many screwups when this happens, which is why where I
retired from we've always
stayed with one vendor for the entire network. On very large networks
that have to cross over into
a WAN, I've found back then that Synoptics was a very good networking
vendor. You could hot swap
cards out on their products and not bring the network down.

And of course the most possible problem is that Steve doesn't know or is
just trolling.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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