Re: Why I am a good mark to be bashed by reality

"High Plains Thumper" <hpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
gk13mm$hl3$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 1/6/09 7:23 PM:

....
Snit absolutely *hates* this list with a passion... he's whined
about it constantly.

When?

I told you I would post the list of quotes about Steve... so as to not start
a new thread and make others think such quote lists mean anything... here
are some quotes I gathered in *one month* for Steve. He has been gathering
quotes about me since at least 2004.

Correct me where I misunderstand you, Steve. Snit made some
comment about Bush many years ago that you think he did not
prove and because of that you think it is fine to accuse him
of forging your posts without any evidence at all and you
expect him to jump in and defend you when others call you
names when you act like a complete ***. Please, Steve,
tell me that I am wrong about you being that stupid.

So you claim snit lies and therefore beause he lies, you get
to be a lying *** tube with anyone you want to declare to be
a snit sock.

So, Steve am I a snit puppet like you deluded previously?

Because, *** tube, you have to prove I am snit BEFORE you
can assert that you are using the same tactics. Now, prove
I am a snit sockpuppet, your assertion, or admit you are a
completely clueless *** tube.

So, you can't prove that 'Ratz is Snit's sock.

Never said it was. But your retorts after being caught with
your foot in your mouth, they have all been weak.

You would have been better off by accepting that you'd made a
fool of yourself. Instead, you've chosen to act like a
grade-schooler.
This isn't worth my time. Grow up.

Where is the evidence of sock puppetry Steve? Do you think
hiding like a spanked coward will help your case?
Why did you claim things were snipped when they were still in
the post?
When will you stop lying?
Please post edit everything, again, Steve.

None of that is support for anything but the affirmation, "I
HATE SNIT AND I WANT HIM TO DIE!!!!!" You have to prove that
he is lying and socking up (to people who could not possibly
give a flying *** about you, Snit, or your tiff with him) to
get anyone thus disinterested to believe that you are, in
fact, not lying or socking up yourself.
Alternatively, you can go on to win many awards for
dipshittery, looniness, pathological lying, and sockpuppetry,
and get listed on Kookpedia, where at least two kooks have
made it damn clear they don't care to be litsed, and only
gotten their way because they have nyms or nicknames on
usenet. You have no such protection, so you'll be "Steve
Carroll" on all Kookpedia pages, and "Steve_Carroll" in the
URL.

So you admit you are a lying scumbag.
Hint: You are claiming someone with years of posting with the
exact same nym & email is a sockpuppet of someone with much
less posting history.
So how exactly does that work, Steve? Explain how I could be
posting years in advance and be a sockpuppet now?
<Insert next lying evasion>

Weak, carroll.

Steve, I am still awaiting your proof I am a snit sock
puppet. More evasions will be proof you are a lying scum bag.
What is required is you post something other than your
opinion as proof:

Care to share of your abundant wisdom, carroll?

I didn't bring up the economy. I even pointed out that I was
*not* talking about the economy. But you, with your twisted
"alice in wonderland"-logic, immediately assumed I was
talking about the economy. You need to have your head
examined.

Running away? No. I'm watching your "logic" once again snarl
itself up like a plate of spaghetti. Just like it always
does.

What are you going on about *this* time?

I've decided to accept the nomination, not for the evidence
presented /prior/ to the nomination, which might have
convinced me to at least excise Steve Carroll from the "COLA
Kook Collective" but from the ample evidence Mr. Carroll
presented afterwards. At some point, he exceeded the "doth
protest too much" threshold.

Poor Steve, can't understand when he is asked a direct
question and then is stupid. I could have said "acts stupid"
but I doubt he is acting.

The only thing you proved is that you're as scrambled as
always.

Right... care to elaborate on this? Use a tiny teaspoon
please. Assume that I'm *really* stupid.

For the slow kid:
1. You claim I am snit's sock.
2. you claim you get to use the same tactics as snit
because I am snit's sock.
3. You cannot show the slightest piece of evidence that I am snit.
Ergo you cannot whine about anyone's tactics unless you can
supply evidence that either of your claims can be supported
by evidence.
Does that help, *** tube?
Or are you just going to continue to claim that anyone who
thinks you an obsessive *** tube to be a snit sock.

Only I wasn't talking about the economy. You skipped tracks.

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:03:33 -0600, a coward and pest named
Steve Carroll lied: Then lied about lying, lied about having
lied about lying, lied some more to cover up the previous
lies, and lied again.

Note: Steve once again runs away from posting his proof.

"Which sockpuppets would those be, Steve? Itemize the one YOU
think are me." What's the matter, chicken***, you said I was
a snit sock, now prove it.

No, I'm going to make a distinction between sentences that
contain the word "not" and sentences that don't.

Because, *** tube, you have to prove I am snit BEFORE you can
assert that you are using the same tactics. Now, prove I am a
snit sockpuppet, your assertion, or admit you are a completely
clueless *** tube.

What are you talking about now?

So all you can do is make up more delusion and lies in a
pathetic attempt to cover for your previous lies. What's the
matter, Steve, you could not find a lie, could you? All you
can find is you hiding behind snit's skirts. How does that
make you feel Steve, knowing that the only sense of safety
you have is cowering in the shadows like a beaten little
puppy.

Stevie once more evades and hides:
************************************************
>> >>So here is where you show I lied about you:
************************************************
When you going to show these lies, Steve? You going to keep
snipping and running and hiding behind Snit. You are a
gutless little crybaby.

The only reason you want to use your twisted view of his
standards is you have none of your own. Clearly your word
means nothing to you. You fucking bitch about how Snit
talked badly about Bushy years ago so you get to be an
*** and lie about him all you want. Are you stoned? Are
you really that stupid and fucked up? Get a goddam life
already!

Steve fucktube Carroll blew a gasket because someone said
something mean about his buddy Bushy. Well Fucktube Carroll,
Bushy is a law breaking *** of galactic proportions who
lies to the world for a drop of oil. He can bend over
forwards and take it up the ass from Cheney for all I care.
Are you going to chase me down for years now to and lie about
me forging you?

No corrections offered, so now we know the real story here:
Snit made some comment about Bush many years ago that you
think he did not prove and because of that you think it is
fine to accuse him of forging your posts without any evidence
at all and you expect him to jump in and defend you when
others call you names when you act like a complete ***.
You clearly are that stupid.

I have seen Snit point to his website where he does have
support. Have you seen it? Do you have a counter arguement?
I bet not! Snit made some comment about Bush many years ago
that you think he did not prove and because of that you think
it is fine to accuse him of forging your posts without any
evidence at all and you expect him to jump in and defend you
when others call you names when you act like a complete
***.

Why? Because now you will follow me around for years
accusing me of forging your posts, too? Are you making a
threat? Are you going to try to hunt me down and *** with
me, too?

Now you accept Snit offered support. Lovely. Do you have
anything to counter his support or will you just follow him
around for eternity claiming he is forging you?

Shove your crap up your ass, Steve. Snit has posted his
website that has his argument. Can you refute it or will you
just continue to lie about him throughout eternity because he
said something mean about Bushy the war monger?

You clearly are in a perpetual mental breakdown you fucktube.

...You have labelled Snit as being guilty of forging you.
When pressed to provide proof, you provide over 100 quotes
from various individuals regarding their perceptions of him.
That isn't proof of anything except that he lives rent-free
in a whole lot of heads. Therefore, by the definition you
just gave me, you are, indeed, a thug, as well as a Rethug.

And you are a dissembling *** tube.

Snit made a comment about Bushy years ago that set you off so
now you get to accuse him of forging your posts and you think
that is just fine. You are fucked up more than most of the
idiots who post to Usenet.

So is 5 days enough for you to have come up with a response,
fucktube?

Of sweet ***-all. Voltaire said, "A witty saying proves
nothing." Your quotes aren't even /witty/. Who gives a ***
what people "believe"? It doesn't mean you've proven Snit to
be a liar for a second. As for being a troll, most usenetters
are that. The ones who aren't trolling are k00ky wallflowers
who want no one to reply to them. Try again, slaphead.

So you'd rather not prove any of your claims, but instead
keep foaming away at Snit and anyone who dares question your
attacks on him. You're gonna walk away with that CNOTM.

Your statement, cupcake, you provide proof of your own
assertion. Here is a hint, I don't give one flying Ratz ass
about your co-dependant obsession with snit. Now back to the
question you cannot answer: :What's the matter, chicken***,
you said I was a snit sock, now prove it. <Next cowardly
avoidance and obfuscation>

Do shut the *** up.

You were asked to provide YOUR evidence not what other unknown
people write. "Which sockpuppets would those be, Steve? Itemize
the one YOU think are me."

What lie did I post? You can of course show where I lied
about anything about you, right? Proof is so important to you
and lying is so egregious to you you would noyt want to be
caught lying yourself, right? So here is where you show I
lied about you:

Which sockpuppets would those be, Steve? Itemize the one YOU
think are me.

You keep whining about Snit saying he did not have proof. So
what? Did he have support? Do you think a lack of proof is
the same as a disproof? Are you hoping Bushy jumps in Air
Force One to come meet you and then meat you?

Prove it, moron. You made a claim, now prove you did not lie.
"What's the matter, chicken***, you said I was a snit sock,
now prove it." <insert next obfuscation>

What else will netkook Steve obsess over next?

Come on *** tube, where was the *post*? To what am I
replying? Demonstrate how that *post* that has no text in the
body and consists of just headers is not a *post*.

Steve = Nutjob

Oh how cute! Another 29 percenter!

Well, that's where you're royally fucked, then, isn't it?
Because Snit's proof that Bush is a war criminal is possessed
of Herculean strength, next to your 98-pound weakling that he
is a sockpuppeteer.

Look, I don't care who is who. I comment on topics, I
generally don't care who writes the subject matter.

And we should care as to his ethnicity/religion
precisely...why?

Again, you think the opinions of posters who are mostly
amateur kookologists (at best -- I saw one single nym
belonging to an accredited pro) and (in at least a few cases)
k00ks is enough to sway me on the subject of Snit's kookery.
You are, at minimum, at least as obsessed as he is, and that
isn't taking into account you getting completely thrashed in
a debate about Bush five years ago, then going on a five-year
mission of destruction against Glasser. Tell me, do you still
support the Idiot Tyrant?

Will you _ever_ stop lying?

Did he offer support? Was the support strong? Was there any
counter support? And why the hell do you care if this
happened years ago? Did Bushy promise you a blow job if you
defended him for the rest of eternity?

Oh, shut up, you whiny little fuckbot.

You need to look at your own moral scorecard in these
matters.

Steve Carroll is the resident right wing nutjob over in mac
advocacy. Expect some kind of CRAZED response.

<Proof Steve Carrol is a clueless knob><Compounding the
clueless knob nature>

WOOT! Paranoia!!!! So I posted without anything in the body,
is that a post or not, *** tube?

He did in fact say "You", in reply to me, when he was
referring to you, so I'd say you're the one who is apparently
an ESL student -- and you aren't exactly in a good position
to be chiding anyone about this, Mr. "I think Everyone Is A
Snit Sock If They Don't Agree With Me About Snit". You
exhibit no understanding as to what a "sockpuppet" is, nor
are you aware of the fact that Snit is on a Windows box,
whilst I am using Linux, as my headers will reveal.

Note: No response.

What exactly does the following mean in response to you being
shown to be a complete idiot?

So was it a post or not? Be a man, stand up for what you
believe, show how a post that has nothing in the body and
only headers is not a post.

It gets more deliciously k00ky with age...
Nice lie, Steve. Why didn't you claim I snipped what was not
snipped, again?
...
Why would you need to edit your comments, coward?
I see YOU finally snipped your comments you were claiming I
snipped. How's that one working out, liar.
Still have not seen one shred of evidence to support you lies
I am someone's sock puppet. Hell, show I am anyone's
sockpuppet but my own.

Poor Steve, left repeating his lies.
...
Where did I snip it Steve (it is ALL still there Steve)? You
are lying, again.

What was snipped Steve? It is ALL still there, right where it
was left. I am coming to the conclusion tha that it isn't
that you lie but that you are too stupid to recognize reality
when you see it.
Now, when do you connect the aratzio nym to the snit nym and
prove that I am a sock puppet rather than someone that just
considers you an idiot.

I just asked you. So where is it Steve? Where is the proof
you claim to have I am a snit sock puppet, steve. You do have
the proof? You know something like right below, evidence you
are a lying scumbag.

Now go ahead and snip the verifiable facts and pretend you did
not lie, again.

Arguing that Snit needs to prove it is all the proof I need
of your raging k00kery.

For his argument that my reference to the headers from two of
his posts as "posts" is proof that I am unable to distinguish
between a post and a header, and further, his claim that he
is being "forged" (apparently, by someone duplicating his
posts on a Windoze box, but not adding any new content, or
making any changes at all -- dude, who cares? You did in fact
say what you were quoted as saying, which is the point), I,
Snarky (not Snit, not Aratzio, not Kadaitcha Man, not Gary
"flatfish" Stewart, or any other poster on Steve's haet
lits), do hereby nominate Steve Carroll for Clueless Newbie
of the Month.

You do know what the word "executive" means, don't you?

You ARE a crazed right wing nutjob.

So ALL the people who point out that you are a complete
fucking idiot are actually just one person? Bizarre.

So, let us grant, for the purposes of argument only, that it
is true that there are MS advocates posting in cola who are
lying sacks of ***. How does that justify finding out
people's names and where they work then targeting them in
real life until they break?

So you're still lying, then. Like any (Re)thug.

Whilst I'm not certain if Fitton and Carroll (et al) acts of
stalking and outer-filthing exemplify "the eponymous founder
of this award", one thing is for sure, while a thoroughly
good rogering with a splintery bush-jarrah pole is in order
for the cola kooks, a painfully sharp anal pineapple is the
next best thing.

Cmon, fucktube, show how your *headers are not a post* works.

Feel free to prove that it was a forged post *anytime*,
fuckface. AFAIAC, it has been proven to be yours.

Steve's too much the coward to go look it up. I compared the
alleged forgery to the post where he makes the claim, and the
differences are irrelevant. Same newsreader, same OS, same
NSP -- those are the things one would need to be a real
0BsEsS0 to reproduce, and Steve's already one of the biggest
obsessos on CSMA. Steve is invited to check out my proof.

Why did you add those other newsgroups? Anxiety-panic?
Politics? Dreamweaver?

Translation: "LALALALALAAALAAALALA*ICANTHEARYOU*LALAAAAALAAA"

You know, Steve, you have become especially vicious of late.
Is it possible that you are mentally ill ...

Or is it just a big joke to you to flood this and other groups
and clog the server with endless megabytes of garbage that you
haven't even bothered to "X-No-Archive: Yes"?

Steve Carroll wrote:
> a whole bunc of trollish crap cross-posted to the world
Plonk

The posts which you claim are "forgeries" may or may not be
so. ... That you're a wingnut k00k? Bush _is_ a war criminal.
War crimes have been committed on his watch, and ultimate
responsibility for them leads to his desk.

Stop forging me, k00k.

DYOFDW. Motzarella's abuse dept. will act on solid evidence
of forgery of a valid email address on their server. ...
What lie? You /are/ busted. Fucking liar.

"Fantasies?" It's happening right before our eyes. You can't
see it because you're part of it.

Yeah, like you provided Message-IDs for all /your/ quotes.
Twit. I'm no more anonymous than you are -- you can google my
nyms and find a history dating back to 1999 -- and I know as
much about you as you do about me. Nothing, nada, zip,
bupkus. The caring is on the same level, too. All I care
about is your insane, frothy spew, and you are very obliging.

Re-read the sub-thread, carroll. I didn't mention third world
nations until *after* you skipped tracks.

Fiend! You're forging _me_, kO0k.

Please be explaining the law that has been broken.
Please be explaining why the police would pay attention to a
pantywaist whiner.
Please be explaining why any prosecutor would give a flying
*** about your whining.
Please be explaining why you do not have the account nuked at
Motzerella, first.
I'll bet you are lying.
Oh, is a post without a body still a post?

Yay a meds lame.

Prove they're *Snit's*, and not, say, K-Man's, or mine
(neither he nor I are "Snit", who is being voted on for a
kook award right now, until tomorrow night). Wild, bug-eyed,
foaming accusations, aimed at some guy who handed you your
head in a political flamewar about five years ago, are
nothing.

No, I won't have sex with you, mister.

> I get it... you're measuring success in dollars and sense.
Your problem is you never use /either/ measure to rate your
success.

Wanna try a new lie, Steve?
Oh, still awaiting you to provide one piece of evidence that
I am ANYONEs sock puppet.
If I told you where to find one post under my name that
exists in google from 1995 would you admit you are wrong?

>> Steve blames me when the weather is bad.
> Whose fault is this?
Apparently, Snit's, according to you. A less-biased point of
view might well see it as a matter of your own obsession
blinding you -- or perhaps it's because you're a wingnut. I
dunno.

I don't really give a flying *** if a bunch of other people
hate Snit, for whatever reason, or blame him for bad weather,
or think he's forging you -- a million people sharing a
hallucination are a million delusional people. There is no
proof whatsoever that the Motzarella copies of your posts
came from Snit, unless the Motz admin has it himself. Your
own paranoia about Snit -- similar to BushCo paranoia about
"terrorism" -- is proof of nothing.

Classical "Commies hiding under my bed to STEAL MY KIDNEYS!"
paranoid histrionics.

No, he was merely unclear. As kooks go, Snit seems a minor
one, to me, but you seem to be more of a Gerald C. Newton.
Maybe a Lysaght, but that'd be a pretty huge diff -- you
might wind up with an award named for you, in a few years, if
so. Mind you, Emmett Earl Gulley did, and he only won 13 (but
he's in prison now for his usenet-to-real-life kookery).

These people are known technically as net.kooks. You know,
guys like Steve Carroll.

Snit may be a k00k; Steve Carroll is unquestionably a k00k

Or the guys (and gals) that Steve Carrol's paranoid delusions
think are snit.




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