Re: The fantasy of the theory of evolution

On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 20:44:22 -0700, true science wrote
(in article <5cd01$48ed7f11$28187@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>):

Creation scientists use the scientific method to prove statements made
about the universe in the Bible. They make postulates and theories and
then set out to find proof to support them. So far, they have been very
successful as the facts support the theories.

Wrong. "Creation Science" is NOT science. Real science follows the evidence
to a conclusion. "Creation Science starts with a devoutly wished for
conclusion and works backwards trying to make the facts fit that conclusion
and discarding those that don't. It's ludicrous and its pseudo-science at
best and idiocy at worst.


Naturalistic scientists have fabricated hoax theories and manufactured
evidence and fake proof to support a theory that no one will ever be
able to prove - because the evidence does not support it.

The theory of evolution has had NO real competition in the 150 years since it
was first postulated. Every piece of evidence leads in one and only one
direction, that evolution is the mechanism of change in the natural world.
Not one shred of evidence points to the creation story in Genesis as being
anything other than what it is, a fairy story and a parable.

Many have been brainwashed by public schools, leftist college professors
and instructors, atheist fundamentalists and anti-God evangelists into
believing the big lies of "there is no God" and "the universe evolved
accidentally out of nothingness."

All evidence certainly points in this direction (except that you are wrong
about science believing that the universe evolved out of nothingness. You are
grasping at straws and should try studying some real science with the same
verve with which you study this fundamentalist Christian nonsense.

Temple of Science Exhibits the Religion of Science

http://www.icr.org/article/4142

Geologist doing real science that supports the reality of the Genesis
flood

http://www.icr.org/article/4127/

Bullshit. All of it. You can't do real science and follow an agenda where the
desired outcome or any research is a forgone conclusion. Its just not
possible. The very fact that these "scientists" are trying to prove Genesis
taints their research irrevocably.

The National Creation Science Foundation has awarded its first grant to
eminent geologist Dr. Steve Austin. NCSF has signed a major contract
with Dr. Austin for his continued management of the Flood-Activated
Sedimentation and Tectonics (FAST) project.
If Genesis 1-9 can be taken as a literal, historical account of the
early years of the universe and mankind, then Noah¹s Flood was a
catastrophic global event that entirely reshaped earth¹s landscape. The
modern creation science movement was launched with the 1961 publication
of Drs. Henry Morris and John Whitcomb's The Genesis Flood, which
correlated scriptural description with scientific evidence to
demonstrate that the Flood is, indeed, the best explanation for our
world¹s physical formations and geologic history.
The FAST project was undertaken to further investigate the implications,
processes, and results of the Flood, from intricately analyzing the
Genesis account for its narrative descriptions, to examining its
sedimentary and tectonic processes. These studies form the three
research initiatives of the FAST program:
1. Flood Narrative, exploring the connection between the text of
Genesis 6-9 and earth's geologic history;

2. Flood Sedimentation and Stratigraphy, examining the
characteristics of earth's sedimentary rocks and rock layers, and
testing theories for the rapid underwater deposition of sand and mud;

Bullshit. The earth is a closed hydrosystem. There is, and never has been,
enough water on this planet to completely inundate it. Where did the water
come from, and more importantly where did it go afterward?

3. Flood Tectonics, studying the features and formation of mountains
to formulate theories regarding how the colossal physical forces of the
Flood resulted in such massive geologic structures.

More bullshit.

Old Testament scholars are applying their expertise in ancient Hebrew to
the Genesis Flood account, unpacking the grammar, vocabulary, and other
language features to uncover clues that geologists can apply to their
understanding of Flood events. Scientists have also been examining
sedimentation in the southwestern United States to gain a better
understanding of how the Flood could have produced the widespread and
distinctive rock layers that are found there. And geologists have found
evidence of superfaults, involving huge movements and collisions of
continental plates that would have resulted in catastrophic rock
displacement and a profound reshaping of the earth's surface features.
In August, Dr. Austin traveled to Alaska for the FAST program to conduct
field work in a remote wilderness area of Wrangell St. Elias National
Park. He reported at the time:
"I am on the boundary fault where the Pacific Plate collided with the
North American Plate in the Upper Cretaceous time. The head-on plate
collision occurred as the MacColl Ridge Formation (Upper Cretaceous) was
being deposited. I am here to study the sedimentary strata and tectonics
of that plate collision. The MacColl Ridge Formation is the product of
the collision."
Dr. Austin was particularly interested in a part of the formation he
referred to as Conglomerate Bed #7. He concluded:
"It is obviously a debris flow (undersea mudflow) with extreme power and
pulsating delivery of clastics. The largest boulder is about 1 meter by
0.3 meter. Bladelike clasts show imbrication that indicates transport
ten miles northward from the collision zone. The rounding of clasts
indicates an abrasive flow. Bed #7 is about 100 feet thick. Flow
velocity may have exceeded 30 mph.
There is virtually nothing in 7,000 feet of strata that argues for slow
deposition. These strata bear witness of catastrophic flood
sedimentation. It is "soup and slurry" sedimentation like I have never
seen before."

No scientists are researching any such things. These people who are doing
this ridiculous "research" are not scientists even though they call
themselves such. They may have scientific degrees but they abandoned their
credibility and their credentials when they started practicing religion
rather than science.

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http://icr.org

Does Carbon Dioxide Drive Global Warming?

http://www.icr.org/article/4128/

The Burgess Shale and Complex Life

http://www.icr.org/article/4129/

How young is the earth? Man lived longer in the early days of the
creation because the atmosphere was oxygen rich and not polluted, the
climate was wetter, the food was much higher in vital nutrients and the
stress levels were lower - except when you were fighting the pagan
barbarians.

More bullshit. People lived much shorter lives in the past, on average, than
they do now. The hard work, lack of medicine, and poor nutrition make more of
a difference than the benefits of low pollution and "more oxygen." BTW, you
have to go back nearly 40 million years before there is an appreciable
increase in oxygen levels on the earth. If anything, the huge ice fields
covering much of the northern and southern hemispheres during the very early
human era, probably meant that if anything, there was likely slightly LESS
oxygen in the air than there is now.

http://www.icr.org/article/4124/

http://www.icr.org/article/4143

http://www.icr.org/article/4141

http://www.icr.org/article/4138

http://www.icr.org/article/4139


http://www.icr.org/Evidence/
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Give it up. The "creationism boat" (or is that cretinism) has sailed. Long
since.


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