Re: Your iPhoneIs Not Yours

On Aug 12, 1:01 am, Steve de Mena <st...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thundercleetswrote:
On Aug 11, 4:32 pm, ed <n...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 8, 10:03 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <2guo94l5qu8dgne2hkmrjnvidfdrihc...@xxxxxxx>,
 Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rl...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Its Apple's. They'll determine what you can run on it, not you. Why
Maccies put up with this crap is a mystery to me.
http://www.betanews.com/article/IPhone_feature_could_enable_Apple_to_....
_remotely/1218124172
Hmmm...
Could it be because the whole thing doesn't exist to "put up with" in
the first place?
"An informed source at Apple confirmed to me that the "clbl" in the URL
stands for "CoreLocation Blacklist", and that it does just that. It is
not a blacklist for disabling apps completely, but rather specifically
for preventing any listed apps from accessingCoreLocation -- an API
which, for obvious privacy reasons, is covered by very strict rules in
the iPhone SDK guidelines"
<http://daringfireball.net/2008/08/core_location_blacklist>
What? Clyde uncritically accepting any negative thing reported about
Apple or its products?
Say it isn't so!
the capability to disable apps remotely DOES exist, direct from steve
jobs mouth, according to the wsj.

'Apple raised hackles in computer-privacy and security circles when an
independent engineer discovered code inside the iPhone that suggested
iPhones routinely check an Apple Web site that could, in theory
trigger the removal of the undesirable software from the devices.

Mr. Jobs confirmed such a capability exists, but argued that Apple
needs it in case it inadvertently allows a malicious program -- one
that stole users' personal data, for example -- to be distributed to
iPhones through the App Store. "Hopefully we never have to pull that
lever, but we would be irresponsible not to have a lever like that to
pull," he says.'

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121842341491928977.html

Not to be dismissive but is this rather moot.

Any carrier or set maker can control what you put on your phone.

After all nothing stops Billy G. from stopping apps from being
installed on his copies of Windows either.

But currently they don't have that control.  I can write an
application tomorrow that will install on any copy of Windows.

Besides, we were talking about the ability to remotely disable an app
already ON the iPhone.

Steve

Since NT4 M$ can prohibit apps and even shutdown and install.
Since XP SP2 (and before supposedly) and of course in Vista they gave
themselves root over user.

That you can write an app now does not mean it will work later unless
Billy says so.
Disabling or working around this "feature" is a violation of EULA and
of the DMCA.

For example Gator is a nasty piece of crap scum ware.
It used to be blocked by Defender but since M$ bought them M$ is happy
to let Defender expose Windows users to Gator.
I doubt even a Windows user would want to install Gator except maybe
Edwin so I guess it was M$ who made that choice.

Getting back to phones, I think if it is even true it is a big so
what.
There are no phones I can think of except maybe the Moko and other
Linux comms. that let you openly write to the platform.
Usually you have to invest in a development kit, a license for
development of the platform and share a royalty with the carrier, the
platform developer, any library owners and the hardware people.

.

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