Re: Microsoft testifies Google-Yahoo "anti-competitive"


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From Electronista:

http://tinyurl.com/5o5er7

Looks like Crybaby Microskank is having a
hissy
fit
over
Yahoo
supporting ads on Google. Microskank's
legal
counsel
Brad
Smith
is
such
a whiny assed girlie bitch.

Cuss and discuss, folks, especially all ye
Windroids.
Let's
see
who
can
be the biggest crybaby bitches.

Microsoft testifies Google-Yahoo
"anti-competitive"

Tuesday, July 15th

Microsoft today argued that US House and
Senate
Judiciary
Committees
that the proposed Google/Yahoo deal,
claiming
that
Yahoo's
agreement
to
support ads through a non-exclusive deal is
anti-competitive
and
would
allegedly hurt innovation. The legal
counsel
for
Microsoft,
Brad
Smith,
expresses fears that Google would control
as
much
as
90
percent
of
online advertising, allowing it to dictate
prices
and
force
companies
to
advertise through it for proper exposure.
He
also
warns
that
Google
could potentially have a monopoly on
Internet
services.

"If search is the gateway to the Internet,
and
most
believe
that
it
is,
this deal will put Google in a position to
own
that
gateway
and
the
information that flows through it," Smith
claims.

If Windows is the gateway to the Internet
for
90%
of
users,
one
can
easily argue that Microsoft is in the same
position
as
Google/Yahoo.
Maybe if MS was willing to give up its
stranglehold,
it
might
have
more
credibility in trying to get Google/Yahoo to
give
up
theirs.

I can buy a different operating system any
time I
want.
I
can
even
get
different operating systems for free.
Likewise
I
can
buy
or
get
for
free
Web browsers and lots of different
applications
that
don't
come
from
M$.

How do I get the Internet to install a
different
major
search
engine
any
time I want?

You can use a different search engine anytime
you
want...

Which other search engines get the results of
either
Yahoo
or
Google?

Your earlier example of operating systems didn't
guaranteed
equal
outcomes: just additional choices.

IOW, you believe Mac OSX, and all other operating
systems,
are
inferior
choices to Windows?

Nope. I said nothing of the kind.

You said other operating systems, which includes Mac
OSX,
can't
guarantee
equal outcomes to Windows. What else does that make
them
besides
inferior
to Windows?

Better, of course. "Not equal" doesn't mean "less".

Since there are better choices than Windows, you're left
with
coming
up
with
a better choice than Yahoo or Google to search the Web.

No, I'm not.

You have to if your arguments are going to start making any
sense.

LOL

No, I don't.

Yes, you do.

LOL

I see you've run out of answers.

LOL

Are you incapable of adult conversation?




I'm not saying that Google isn't the best choice. Just that
being
the
best doesn't make one "anti-competitive".

Making a deal with Yahoo to control most of the Internet has
nothing
to
do
with being "the best." Nor does it have anything to do with
Microsoft's
position in the OS market.

I'm not arguing that this deal doesn't have potential
anti-competitive
implications, just that your argument is flawed.

When do you intend to point out the flaws in my argument? So
far
all
you've done is contradict yourself and retreat.

I already have.

No you haven't.

Yup.

Nope.


You claimed you have choice in OSes,

Which you both agreed and disagreed with. What I actually
claimed,
quite
correctly, is that MS can not control my access to the Internet
with
Windows
OS dominance in the way a Yahoo/Google merger can.

What you claimed was that you had a choice of OSs, but no choice in
search engines.

That's not what I claimed.

That is precisely what you claimed:

"I can buy a different operating system any time I want."

Are you saying you don't now what context is?

Couldn't you think of an aswer?




but not in search engines. You're
wrong.

That leaves you with needing to show another search engine that's
the
equal
of Yahoo or Google. Several if I'm to have real choice.

Nope. I don't have to show you a search engine that is the equal of
either in order to show you have other choices.

I can equally access the Internet, or even access it better, without
Windows. MS dominance can't force me to use their OS as an Internet
portal.
For you to claim I have choices in search engines that circumvent the
Yahoo/Google merger, in the way I can circumvent Windows, you have to
show
me choices that are as good or better, not just claim I have choices.

Then what you've just claimed (by implication) is that there are
operating systems just as good or better than Windows.

It's the same thing you said.

No. I disagree with that.

You disagree that there are better operating systems than Windows?

You, however, must believe it to be true.

But you don't.


But you're wrong.

Then why did you say Mac OSX is better than Windows?

Because it is better.

Then why did you disagree above that there are better OS than Windows?


Choice exists whether or not the choices are better or
equal in quality to Google/Yahoo.

For your arguments to make any sense, the choice of search engine has to
be
as good or better than Yahoo/Google, in the way one may get a better
operating system than Windows to serve as one's Internet portal.

Nope. There just has to be choice.

Then your arguments make no sense.


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