Re: Mac OS X at 8%

In article <4b4fb$486cec62$19317@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Edwin"
<thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alan Baker:
And Internet usage reflects use by *people* as opposed to use
by machines that do a single task in a factory, etc.

Edwin:
Those single task computers in factories aren't being used by
*people*, huh Alan? They've got robots at their keyboards?
Or is it only using a computer for Web browsing counts as using
a computer?

Or is it that more Windows computers are hidden behind routers
than Macs are?

Sandman:
Do you *still* think that a router masquerades your browser,
Edwin? It masquerades your IP, which incidentally doesn't say
anything about what OS you're using.

Here's what hitslink would see from three computers, one mac and
two PCs behind a router:

Computer IP Browser
Mac 12.34.56.68 Safari 3.1
Mac 12.34.56.68 Safari 3.1
Mac 12.34.56.68 Safari 3.1
Mac 12.34.56.68 Safari 3.1
Mac 12.34.56.68 Safari 3.1
Mac 12.34.56.68 Safari 3.1
Mac 12.34.56.68 Safari 3.1
PC 1 12.34.56.68 Internet Explorer 7
PC 1 12.34.56.68 Internet Explorer 7
PC 1 12.34.56.68 Internet Explorer 7
PC 1 12.34.56.68 Internet Explorer 7
PC 1 12.34.56.68 Internet Explorer 7
PC 2 12.34.56.68 Internet Explorer 7
PC 2 12.34.56.68 Internet Explorer 7
PC 2 12.34.56.68 Internet Explorer 7

Edwin:
You put PC 1 and 2, but you have no way of knowing that.

Of course not. We're measuring usage, not units. I knew about PC1 and
PC2 in my example, which was deliberate.

Sandman:
That's 15 requests by three computers,

Edwin:
Or 15 requests by one computer, as far as anybody outside the system
knows.

No, outside it's at least seven requests by a Mac and eight requests
by a PC.

Sandman:
originating from the same IP.

Edwin:
That's all you know.

See the data above? The third column is what browser is being used,
which of course isn't masqueraded by the router. We know how many
unique internet browser versions there are at that IP, and also how
many requests each version has made.

Sandman:
If both PCs used the exact same version of IE7, hitslink wouldn't
differentiate between them, but each request they make is counted.
The router doesn't hide the fact that they are PCs.

Edwin:
It doesn't tell which requests were made by which computer, so
there's no way to know the number of computers making the requests.

No, but we can still measure the amount of requests. I.e. the usage.
if you have a Media Mac (as I) then it wouldn't be counter either,
since it doesn't make any internet hits at all.

Sandman:
So, if you have more than one PC at home, the usage numbers will
rise accordingly if you use both to surf the web.

Edwin:
But nobody can tell if I'm using one PC twice as much or two PCs
half as much.

BUt we can tell if you're using a PC, which is the point. Again,
hitslink doesn't measure units, it measures usage.

Sandman:
So, even though the Mac was used more above than any single PC, it
is still outnumbered by the PC usage originating from that IP, so
the PC "wins" according to hitslinks, it isn't hidden in any way.

Edwin:
It is hidden, and that's the purpose of using routers, to hide your
internal network from the outside. No set of your bogus figures
will change that.

hitslink doesn't care about IP numbers, Edwin. The above would be
identical to hitslink even if you removed the IP from the equation. It
just registers how many requests that originates from a given browser
agent, i.e. the software.

So, if you use IE and Firefox on your PC, it will be counted twice by
hitlinks. If you don't surf the web with your computer (as my media
mac) it won't be counted as all!

hitslinks measures what browsers are being used, and by that what
operating systems are being used by people to surf the web.

Usage, not units.


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Sandman[.net]
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