Re: Well, I have given up on Apple


"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Edwin" <Thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Edwin" <Thorne25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Mitch" <mitch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In article <kY-dnYRzouuIpMLVnZ2dnUVZ_h_inZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Steve de
Mena <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I never said it couldn't be done, Einstein. I said there was a lack
of
a right-click button. Go back and read my post again, or the 10
times
I have re-posted it. I can't click on a right-click button on a
Mac
because it doesn't have one. Are you that dense?

Steve

Steve, he's responding to the CONCEPT that makes right-clicking
useful.

Duh! Everybody got that, Mitch.

Insofar as a right-click is useful, there is a way to do it easily.

He wants the damn button, Mitch. Not a concept you think is just as
easy.

No, Edwin, he doesn't.

Yes, Alan, he does. He's told you multiple time that he does.

And he's wrong.

He's not wrong. You are wrong, as usual.

The button is a means, not an end.

Your opinion doesn't change the fact he wants the button, not your concepts
that you declare to be the same thing.


The button per se (look it up) serves no purpose.

In your opinion.

In every person with more than half a brain's opinion.

In your opinion. You're wrong, as always.


It's the function the button invokes that he wants.

You're wrong, as always Alan. Steve repeated to you in scores of posts
it's the button he wants. It's been your futile effort to redefine what
he
wants in buttons to what he wants in functions.

Would he want the button if it didn't do anything?

Who cares? He's talking about buttons that do something.

Then it's not the
button he really wants.

It is the button he really wants. How you can keep saying otherwise in
spite of Steve telling you over and over and over that's what he wants is
anybody's guess. I'm guessing it's because you're brain damaged.



Since it is not the METHOD of engaging a contextual menu, but that a
contextual menu can be engaged, he responded.

Did he also give a way to right drag an icon?

No,

So the Mac does not have a replacement for the missing right click
button.
Thanks for finally admitting that.

It does.

You're double-talking again.

You can do the same things that the right-drag does in Windows
with a different implementation.

You have yet to tell what this other way is.


because that is something that Mac doesn't do regardless of whether
or not it has an actual physical right button.

How about when you're running Windows on your Mac? Or Linux? You know
all that stuff we were supposed to have free access to via the miracle of
BootCamp?

Yup. I would never claim that a Mac is as suitable for running Windows
as a PC primarily designed to run Windows.

IOW, it doesn't have the keys Steve wants.

But given that it lets you run both, overall it's a pretty good deal.

Is that why you don't have one?


But what you can do with
right-dragging on the PC, you can do on the Mac with modifier keys.

IOW, you have a more difficult subsitute you want to pass off as the same
thing.

It's not more difficult. In fact, it's more obvious.

Yet you don't tell how to do it.

With right-drag,
you don't even know you're doing one until you actually release the
button.

I can tell which button I have clicked before I release it.

Some people become very confused at this point.

That would be the "some people" who are named either Alan Baker or Snit.

On the Mac, when you hold down the modifier, the pointer's appearance
changes to reflect what the drag will now be doing.

IOW, they copied that from Windows.



How about those dedicated page up, page down, home and forward delete
keys
you guys found convenient to ignore?

Again, you can page up, page down, home, end and forward delete on a
Mac
laptop. It's not hard.

Again, you can't hand wave away the missing buttons.

I'm not waving them away. I'm saying it's a trivial implementation
detail. The functions are there and easy to use.

How do you use them with one finger?


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