Re: Steve Carroll proves he cannot understand what he reads. Again.

In article <C46D607A.BE194%usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Snit <usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Steve Carroll" <trollkiller@xxxxxx> stated in post
trollkiller-CF6642.08002305062008@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on 6/5/08 7:00 AM:

You are, of course, lying. Here are some examples of you claiming to know
what specific Mac John was referencing:

That's a lie... as anyone who can comprehend what he reads can plainly
see.

"Actually"... the term John used was "his machine"... and in
using that term he was referencing Steve DeMena's "machine.
Notable is the fact that the only "machine" (singular) Steve
referenced up until the point John wrote the term "his
machine" was Steve's MBP. People who can comprehend what they
read and who understand the concept of context will all
rightfully assume that John was talking about Steve's MBP.
Context is the key here... which is why you are so confused;)

and:

Wrong, glueboy... it was "hand picked" from this thing called
the "context" that the previous conversation took place in,
where the only Mac referenced up until that point was Steve's
MBP. You can't grasp this because you don't understand what
"context" is... this fact is not exactly a state secret;)

Notice how you insist you know it was the "MPB" that John referenced when
he
specified a "machine" in the set "Macs" with the characteristic of having
an
unsupported eSATA card.

As I told you earlier, I can't "Notice" something that doesn't exist.
What I said was shown above in what you quoted. I'll now isolate it for
the people who can't comprehend what they read (that means *you*):

"People who can comprehend what they read and who understand the concept
of context will all rightfully assume that John was talking about
Steve's MBP."

Your faulty reading comprehension has let you down... again;)

So you *are* claiming to know what specific machine John was in reference
to

False.

... and you assume it was the MPB.

As anyone who can comprehend what they read who can grasp the concept of
context would, yes.

Which shows you cannot understand what you read.

You certainly can never be the judge of such an allegation. Reality
shows the pertinent material there was to read:

John's first post which began the thread:
"Excellent as always".

Steve's first reply (2nd post to the thread):
"On my MacBook Pro, after it installed and rebooted the entire system
froze up about 2 minutes after restarting. I was in Safari at the
time. I had to hit the power switch. (Normally when this happens
it is just the keyboard has stopped responding and I can connect via
Remote Desktop, shut everything down, and stop gracefully).

On what basis do you consider this update "Excellent as always"? Have
you even installed it yet?"


So far... the only Mac mentioned as a Mac that belongs to anyone is
Steve deMena's MBP.

Then Alan commented about problems Steve deMena has had with Macs.
Notably, they're not *necessarily* Macs Steve owns, they're just "Macs".

Alan wrote (3rd post to the thread):
"Steve, you have had more problems in the last six months with Macs than
all the Macs at all the clients I've worked for over that same stretch
of time".

Once again, the only Mac mentioned up until this point as being a Mac
that is owned by anyone is Steve's MBP. John then alleged:

"Steve has an unsupported eSata card in his machine for one thing".

That was the statement John made that Tim took issue with.

John is seen using the term "his machine"... the "his" is undoubtedly a
reference to Steve deMena's "machine"... as you have previously
stipulated. Anyone reading would rightfully assume that John was in
reference to the *only* "machine" that was talked about as being owned
by anyone up until this point in the thread ... Steve's MBP. To claim
that the above quoted text shows, in unequivocal fashion, that John was
*not* referencing Steve's MBP is absurd, which is why you're peddling it.


The "actual" facts up until John's ("his machine") statement:

* Other than it being owned by Steve deMena, there was initially no
solid indication of exactly *which* Mac John was in reference to

* John's allegation of the eSata card in no way served the readers of
THIS thread with the necessary information to determine what Mac John
"meant". Because this is true... we move to...

* It's not an "error" to assume it was Steve's MBP. In fact...

* Context leads any "reasonable" person to assume it *was* Steve's MBP

* John didn't initially write what me "meant" to write

* John subsequently wrote what he initially "meant" to write (but didn't)

* Alan's reference to multiple "Macs" didn't change the facts shown above

* Alan didn't reference any Macs *owned* by anyone.

--
"Apple is pushing how green this is - but it [Macbook Air] is
clearly disposable... when the battery dies you can pretty much
just throw it away". - Snit
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