Re: Macs not used in business?

In article <6d82a$4847f824$9904@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Lurky <hidden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
In article <56udndJdqobtA9rVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Steve de Mena <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
In article <X62dnWn6yqwVZtvVnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Steve de Mena <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
In article <MJOdnUD9DPUCt9vVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Steve de Mena <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
Tell it to these guys:

"Many smart shops I chat with are dumping their Windows machines for
Macs. Take Jaffe Associates, a Washington, D.C., marketing and
business-strategy consultancy. This 25-person firm recently unplugged
its traditional Windows server architecture to install a similar
system
from none other than Apple.

The company considered upgrading its aging Windows XP terminal server
but endured Microsoft sticker shock when it calculated the cost of
deploying collaborative software: Chief Operating Officer Shani
Magosky
got a quote for $100,000.

Then she priced Apple technology for same functionality and found she
could build a similar system for about half the price."

<http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/29/smallbusiness/macs_small_biz.fsb/inde
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There is no such thing as a "Windows XP terminal server".
Your only argument that this isn't a credible account is that the
reporter didn't use the correct term?
I also said I don't buy the "$100,000 for 25 people". So how can you
say this is my "only argument".
You didn't say that.

Yes he did:

Steve:

""There is no such thing as a "Windows XP terminal server".

$100,000 for 25 people?? No sale."

Message ID: <MJOdnUD9DPUCt9vVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

You're caught lying again, Alan.

Sorry, but me not interpreting Steve's implication correctly is not me
lying, Edwin.


If it is demonstrated that a reporter has already gotten one fact
wrong (the "Windows XP terminal server") how can we trust the other
facts reported?
Fact: there is a terminal server program/service that one can use with
Windows XP.
It's for two users maximum, for remote assistance. And it is NOT
called "Windows XP Terminal Server".

I didn't say "included with", now did I? I said "can be used with".

Do you think they were running their company on that?

Nope.

You're still basing your critique on the fact that he didn't call the
product by its Proper Name, but then, he didn't present it as a Proper
Name, did he? Neither "terminal" nor "server" were capitalized.

Why do you keep repeating that lie when Steve already made it quite
clear his main "critique" is that Windows licensing for 25 people
wouldn't cost $100,000?

He hasn't indicated that that is his main critique. Note he wrote "I
also said", not "I'm mostly basing it on the"

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)
.

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