Re: OT:Is Obama as entrenched with the radical left as it appears?



"ed" <news@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
3c300f35-199a-43da-a682-5ae636a7c465@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 6/2/08
7:50 AM:

On Jun 2, 2:47 am, Snit <use...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"ed" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
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i like barack in general, but his economic policies kill me.  :
(  invest in manufacturing?  c'mon, really?  is that really the path
forward for this country?  help homeowners avoid foreclosure- how
about we let people who took out loans they couldn't afford lose their
houses so that the market corrects itself (rather than being propped
up by the gov't) and those who (responsibly) sat on the sidelines can
afford houses?  rank credit cards from 1-5 stars?  should the gov't be
doing this sh@t?  more paid family leave- i live in cali where we have
this already, and let me tell ya, i don't like picking up work for
other people who have kids (they take time off when kids are born to
bond, when kids are sick, when kids have to go to doctor...  it adds
up to a serious chunk of time (outside of their vacation and sick
time).  sheesh.).

What do you suggest people with families do when their kids get sick?  Just
leave their jobs... quit or get fired?  

uh, no, there's a family leave act *now*- it unpaid though, so people
would do the same thing they'd do now, or if they ran out of paid
family leave under the new plan, eh (it's not unlimited after all)?
(that'd typically be *unpaid* leave, which )

The rules should be fair though: if
someone who does not have children has family members they need to take care
of they should be under the same rules as those with children.

yeah, except that happens a lot less frequently (even with the graying
of the baby boomers), so the childless still ends up picking up the
slack.

And the healthy end up "picking up the slack" with health insurance.
And those that do not have house disasters "pick up the slack" with house
insurance".
And those who do not have car accidents "pick up the slack" for those that
do.

Family leave is a sort of insurance... you hope to never need it but for
those who do need it, for any reason, it is there. Yes, it "costs" others
in the short term but in the long run society as a whole benefits.

those w/out kids pick up enough slack otherwise (taxes,
insurance, etc)- this is yet another thing to help those with kids.

This one makes some sense... the idea that I get such big discounts for
having kids is a bit odd, but so is the fact that I have tax benefits from
being a home owner... and tax benefits from being married. None of that
makes sense, really. Then again, that makes no less sense than all the
corporate tax benefits.

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like if the Lamarckian view of evolution had ended up being accepted
over Darwin's?

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