Re: Steve Carroll does not know the difference between saving and quitting.




On 28/4/08 9:35 PM, in article C43B20B2.B5D04%usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
"Snit" <usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Wally" <Wally@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> stated in post
C43BCCE2.1BBAD%Wally@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 4/28/08 3:50 AM:


I mean, look at your BS:

Snit doesn't know that "An alert is a dialog"

What the heck are you babbling about? Do you even know? An alert need
not
be a dialog...

"...need not be..." But in the context of the current discussion .....is!

In the current context the alert would *never* be a dialog. A dialog does
not offer info on what will happen *if* you press a button.

A dialog box stating something to the effect ....

"Replace files with the same name?" which offered a choice of buttons either
'ok' or "cancel" is indeed offering info as to what will happen *if* a
particular button is pressed!

Completely irrelevant to the conversation...

Absolutely relevant to your assertion that....

"A dialog does not offer info on what will happen *if* you press a
button."-Snit

If you cannot even get that right then your whole argument is looking
somewhat shaky!

but sure. Now why not talk about the red button in question?

Because I was talking about your incorrect assertion above that shows the
tenuous grasp that you have on the subject of alerts and dialog boxes ..
obviously!

Clearly in such a case the user is being alerted as to the fact that a file
with the same name already exists in that location, and the dialog box
allows the user to determine what will happen as a result of that fact by
offering a choice of buttons to press!

Makes Steve's comments even less sensible.

Do you have *any* clue as to the topic of discussion?

I read a statement from you, proved that you seem to have little idea as to
what you were talking about so that *was* the topic of my discussion Snit?

Just curious? Let's
pretend you are not just trolling and explain it to you (this is, of course,
futile - being that you are just trolling... ):

Why must you always assert that it has to be an act of trolling whenever you
are shown to have made a mistake?

When you press the red close button (or otherwise close) the last window of
a program there is no GUI indicator to tell the user if the program will
quit or not.

Why should there be?

It will close the app if it is unable to be used any further with that
window closed, or in an app where it can be used for additional work it
won't!

This creates a situation where there is unpredictability.

It will close the app if it is unable to be used any further with that
particular window closed, or in an app where it can be used for additional
work it won't!

That is completely predictable!

I believe it would be better if there was some GUI indicator...

Where is the need considering that the name of the app will remain shown
after the act of closing a window has taken place if the app has not quit?

I for one do not need to be told what I can plainly see Snit, why are you
advocating such duplication of user alerts?

And lets not forget that you also believed that ...

"A dialog does not offer info on what will happen *if* you press a
button."-Snit

Nuff said!

exactly what
is not the point but to have a dialog that tells you *after* you press the
red button does not solve the problem well at all and is not a part of what
*I* have suggested.

As there is already a clear indication whether an app has quit after a
window has been closed Snit .... there simply is no problem to solve!

Of course, for the unobservant or inexperienced or simply not-too-bright
user they do not even know some programs quit and some do not...

I will for the moment assume that all the people that you list above have
sight and can at least read Snit therefore can avail themselves of the
indicators that are at present built into OS X.

or can only think of one application.

As an example only one is needed!

Oh - in case you miss it, yeah, I am mocking Steve's ignorance with that last
statement.

Which is an indictment of you rather than he Snit!

Poor abused Stevie.. he is just
such a nice guy for me to pick on, eh?

Eh? Indeed!

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