Re: Snits obsession

"Steve Carroll" <trollkiller@xxxxxx> stated in post
trollkiller-37BE4E.15360319042008@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 4/19/08 2:36 PM:

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As I said, it is tied to people who have moderate experience with Macs who
are intelligent.

Suppose the person in question has no experience with prompting the
behavior in question on such apps using a Mac? Are such people
unintelligent in your opinion?

Basic "techiness" and having decent observation skills are
also needed, of course.

I obviously possess "observation skills" adequate enough to observe that
the behavior in question does exist on a Mac. This isn't an opinion,
it's an irrefutable fact.

In other words... it has nothing to do with
"intelligence"

Sure it does - if someone has general experience with Macs and meets other
basic criteria

"basic criteria" like having experience with prompting the behavior in
question on apps that exhibit the behavior when prompted, you mean?

it is very much tied to intelligence.

The bottom line is I either possess the intelligence to recognize the
behavior in question when I see it or I don't... I obviously do. Again,
this isn't an opinion, it's an irrefutable fact.

Sure, some people can
be very intelligent and yet not be techy... but my comments are in reference
to regular posters to CSMA, people who are pretty much guaranteed to be at
least somewhat techy. Look at you: you are techy enough to be playing with
PHP and the like.

Which means what, in your opinion, when referenced against apps I've not
'experienced' with respect to prompting this behavior? The correlation
you are trying to draw here is non-existent.

, it has to do with experience with certain apps and the behavior of those
apps. No one will be shocked that you couldn't differentiate between these
two
things.

I suppose there might be some regulars of CSMA who use only a couple apps
and thus do not see the many apps that fit into this category. Can you
think of anyone?

Their existence, or not, is irrelevant to the point you believe you're
making. Another irrefutable fact.

I can't.

You simply made a mistake

What, in your opinion, is my mistake?

: you are either not observant enough or not
intelligent enough to see the patterns of how apps work on a Mac.

How, in your opinion, could I possibly observe something from apps I've
not prompted to exhibit the behavior in question?

This is not a debatable point - you proved it.

How, in your opinion, did I prove it?

Notably, the above is quite different from a person believing that Apple
created an $1800.00 disposable computer that can just be thrown away
when the battery dies. That's something only a person who couldn't
differentiate between the two things you just proved you couldn't
differentiate between would believe... which is why *you* are the person
who stated Apple made such a device;)

Above you repeatedly show you cannot understand what you read and run from
simple questions such as what applications you use. In the end you showed
your ignorance by not being able to think of other OS X programs that quit
when their last window is closed.

You will claim you are not unintelligent... are not immoral... are not
unobservant... so let's give you a little test. I bet you are simply too
scared to take it... you know I am right about you and that the following
test, if you answered it to the best of your abilities, would prove it
(again). You just will run... you are very, very predictable. Oh, if you
think any of the questions push you into a false dichotomy feel free to add
brief comments.


1) Is a lack of proof a valid form of disproof?
A) Yes
B) No

2) If someone is "actually guilty" of committing a crime, does
that mean:
A) They committed the crime (but may not have been convincted)
B) They were convicted of the crime (but might not have done it)
C) They both did the crime and were convicted
D) There is no such thing as being "actually guilty"

3) If someone does something that is clearly against the "Supreme
Law of the Land" does that mean:
A) They broke the law
B) They did not break the law

4) Are homosexual parents:
A) Parasitic in regards to the biological parents
B) Symbiotic in regards to the bioligical parent
C) Neither

5) Are dishonest and public accusations of drug abuse:
A) A reasonble thing to do
B) Something that shows poor moral charactor

6) Must sex include all of the "features" of incest?
A) Yes
B) No

7) Is incest synonymous with sex:
A) Yes
B) No

8) Looking at the WayBackMachine, on what dates prior to
31 May 2006 does sandman.net show it has CSS or HTML
that validates?
A) No dates meet that
B) Some do... and they are ________________________

9) Is there any reliable evidnce that a "geometric shape" that
could reasonably be described as an "exclamation mark" ever
shows up in a log in field on OS X (without, of course, being typed):
A) Yes, and here it is __________
B) No, or at least not that anyone in CSMA I know of has been able to
show

10) Which properly represents the subset of integers 1 through
10 that are over 1000:
A) {0}
B) 0
C) {}
D) None of the above or not enough info to tell


--
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.
--Albert Einstein

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