Re: The Best Browser for Vista




On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:31:20 +0000, nospamatall <nospamatall@xxxxxx>
wrote:

Mayor of R'lyeh wrote:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:30:37 -0400, ZnU <znu@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


The fact that a browser with such poor standards compliance dominates
the market has significant costs to consumers.

Not really.

It results in developers wasting time on IE compatibility that could be spent making web sites
better.

The problem is the developers don't recognize their proper role. The
users aren't there to serve the developers. Its the other way around.

The problem, of course, is that this cost is paid by users of
all browsers, not just IE, so from the standpoint of an *individual*
user it doesn't provide any disincentive to use IE.

(This is actually a rather neat example of one of the more common ways a
free market can malfunction.)

Actually its a neat example of the arrogance of geekdom. If most of
your users have chosen one thing that's the standard you should be
using whether you like it or not.

NO, users like hasta la vista never chose any standard, they just went
along with the browser they were given.

Which is a way of choosing things. Not all choices are made
pro-actively.

And even if they were able to choose a standard they would have no idea how to go about it.

That they have chosen a browser that many are claiming does not fit
with the current standards is all the information that is needed.

Standards
are ways of achieving things, not things themselves. they involve a good
knowledge of the underlying technology and are made by groups of
experts. If people like hasta la vista were to actually choose standards
the thing would not work at all.

You are citing facts not in evidence. Your knowledge of HLV's
technical skills is nil.


Designers work lots of extra hours trying to make their site look the
same in IE as it does on standard compliant browsers. To end users like
hasta la vista there is no difference, thus they are not choosing any
standard, only the browser that renders pages, based on things like how
many days history they can set it to keep.

Which is as valid as any other reason for choosing a browser.
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Why settle for the lesser evil?
Cthulhu for president 2008.
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