Re: I'm sure glad I didn't buy a Mac Mini!

In article <0NadncnNtZqIZkbanZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Hasta La Vista" <noemail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"C Lund" <clund@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
Yep. Reason? OSX.
How is that a reason to pay so much more for a computer?
Because you want to *use* your computer.
How is it you're exchanging messages with me if OSX is required to
*use*
a computer?
Because you're happy with "usually works, sorta".
No I'm not.
An example of "usually works, sorta" is when I send an email to
somebody using Outlook. If that email contains european characters,
such as æ, ø, or å, there's a pretty good chance that Outlook will
replace them with chinese characters. This is because of MS's crappy
implementation of UTF-8. I think this might also be a problem with
Word.
It might be an example if it actually were true.
It *is* true. Try googling the topic and you'll find others who
experience the same things. Hey, I'll even google one for you:
It's not true for me,

So what? That does not change the fact that it "usually works, sorta".
You've just been lucky. Or maybe you don't exchange much data with
continental europeans.

and I'm the one you claimed was happy with "usually
works, sorta," not some other person you found via Google.

You claimed it wasn't true at all and I provided a counterexample.

I have no trouble seeing
your æ, ø or å as they should be, and I can easily type them back to you.
Good for you. There are people I email regularly who do have the
problem I described. Just because you are lucky enough to have a
Windows system that can handle these letters doesn't mean that
everybody does. It just means that Windows isn't consistent.
You didn't find a problem with Windows, you found a problem with Outlook,
which is merely an application running on Windows.

I know you read G Graves post on the topic. This is more than Outlook.
Now, one could discuss whether the problem lies with Windows or in all
MS software that runs on Windows (or maybe just some of it), but
you're still stuck with "usually works, sorta".

You seemed to have ignored that your reference gave you an easy way around
your problem, namely to use ISO-8859-1 instead of UTF - 8.

You shouldn't have to use a workaround *at all*. On the mac, this kind
of stuff Just Works?. No workaround necessary.

Besides, "using ISO" when the document you're looking at is UTF-8
involves stuff like this:

require ?icalendar¹
require ?date¹

class Meeting < ActiveRecord::Base
  belongs_to :room
  belongs_to :journal
  def to_event
    event = Icalendar::Event.new
    event.summary = ³Møde ³ + (journal.number || ³no number..²)
    event.description = description.split(³\n³).join(³\n\n³)
    event.klass = ³PUBLIC²
    event.start = start.to_datetime
    event.end = self.end.to_datetime
    event.location = meeting.room.name + ² ³ meeting.room.address
    event
  end

require ?icalendar¹
require ?iconv¹

class MeetingsController < ApplicationController
  include Icalendar
  def show
    @courtmeeting = Courtmeeting.find(params[:id])
    respond_to do |format|
      format.html # show.html.erb
      format.xml  { render :xml  => @courtmeeting }
      format.ical { render :text => render_to_ical([@courtmeeting])  }
    end
  end
  def render_to_ical(courtmeetings)
    headers[?Content-Type¹] = ³text/calendar; charset=ISO-8859-1?
    cal = Calendar.new
    courtmeetings.each do |meeting|
      cal.add_event(meeting.to_event)
    end
    Iconv.iconv(?ISO-8859-1?, ?UTF-8?, cal.to_ical).to_s
  end
end

This might look like an "easy way around" to somebody using Windows,
but to us maccies, this is an unacceptable kludge.

--
C Lund, folk.uio.no/clund/
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